In Episode 418 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas sits down with award-winning journalist Karen Hao to discuss Empire of AI — her inside account of how OpenAI evolved from an idealistic, safety-first nonprofit into one of the world's most valuable private companies in its race to conquer the future.

This conversation takes you inside that transformation—from the heady idealism of OpenAI's founding, through the billion-dollar Microsoft deal and the 2023 boardroom coup, to the unresolved questions that hang over Silicon Valley and Washington alike about the private concentration of power in the age of artificial intelligence and the nature of the world we are building.

Whether you're an investor, a policymaker, or simply a concerned citizen trying to make sense of today's headlines, this episode will equip you with the context you need to understand what's really at stake in the race for AGI—and the levers we still have to steer it.

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Episode Recorded on 05/12/2025