Empathy, Sympathy, and Charlie Kirk. Plus, Erika Alexander and the Legacy of ‘Living Single.’

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

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Society & Culture

4.8 • 11.3K Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2025

⏱️ 124 minutes

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Van and Rachel start by discussing the legal and cultural fallout from the killing of Charlie Kirk. Then they welcome actress Erika Alexander to talk about Apple TV+’s ‘Invasion’ and look back on her role as Maxine in ‘Living Single.’ (0:00) Intro (1:02) Fallout from Charlie Kirk’s shooting (36:46) Brian Kilmeade on homeless: “Just kill ‘em” (54:05) Van’s basketball tangent (58:42) ‘The Gilded Age’ (1:01:22) Erika Alexander joins the show (1:55:21) AI influencer? Hosts: Van Lathan Jr. and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Erika Alexander Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith Video Supervision: Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Yo, yeah, yo, you thought wars.
0:23.2	What is up? How I'm learning is on is I, Van Lathen, Jr. And it's me, Rachel, and Lindsay. Erica Alexander coming up on the show later on. Erica Alexander is going to be on the show. You guys, we're fantastic interview with Erica Alexander. Love her. Amazing. She's got all kinds of stuff. She's working on right now. She's got a new show on NBC. She's doing a show Invasion. She's coming off of American Fiction. We talked about the fact that she has a production company that's producing all of this stuff. ColorFarm Media. And she has ReLiving Single, which is a living single, which is a living single rewatch podcast. She's doing so much taking advantage of this career renaissance.
0:41.5	We'll talk to her about that.
0:42.2	We'll talk to her a lot of stuff.
0:43.4	You guys, YouTube, like, comment, comment, subscribe, share.
0:47.1	Even if you're listening to this right now on audio, you're listening to it on Spotify,
0:53.1	stop and then go to YouTube, subscribe, like it, do the whole thing.
0:58.7	YouTube, YouTube, YouTube, fuck it, YouTube.
1:02.0	Okay.
1:03.3	Uh, obviously you guys know where we're going to start the show.
1:06.3	There is, we are still in the throes of the country and the nation's reaction to the shooting of Charlie Kirk.
1:14.8	There's a lot of stuff that we didn't know when we recorded on Thursday that we know now.
1:25.3	The shooter has been apprehended.
1:27.7	I don't think we knew that when Thursday. I don't think the shooter has been apprehended. I don't think we knew that when there's.
1:30.1	I don't think the shooter had been apprehended yet when we talked.
1:33.7	No.
1:34.5	The shooter had not been apprehended yet.
1:35.7	No, no, no.
1:36.5	The shooter is 22 years, year old Tyler Robinson.
1:40.2	He is from Utah.
1:44.0	There, as much as we know about the shooter of Charlie Kirk, there are still things that are being volleyballed around.
1:52.1	Very much so, particularly about him.
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