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Empathy Is Not Endorsement With Dylan Marron

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Feelings & Co.

Society & Culture, Personal Journals, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.713.4K Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2022

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

We’re back with another Terrible Reading Club episode, sponsored by Betterhelp Online Therapy. Think of it as our book club for truly terrible times. Haven’t read the book we’re discussing? Good news: In this reading club, that’s not a requirement. Today, we’re chatting with Dylan Marron about his soon-to-be-released book, “Conversations With People Who Hate Me.” Support our new independent production (and get bonus content galore!) by joining TTFA Premium. We now offer tiers as low as $4.99 / month. Sign up. Our email subscribers get first dibs on ticket sales, new merch, show announcements and more. Join our mailing list here. Did you know we’re on TikTok? Yep, it’s true. Follow Nora. You can catch up with TTFA on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook using @ttfapodcast. Nora's Instagram is @noraborealis. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello there, it's Nora McEnerney and this is the Terrible Reading Club, which I like

0:11.2

to refer to as great books for terrible times.

0:15.0

And part of what's terrible sometimes is how easy it is for people to hate each other

0:22.4

and how hard it is for people to talk to each other in meaningful ways when we disagree.

0:29.2

And while it's certainly not a phenomenon that's brand new, the internet certainly has

0:33.4

made it easier for us to voice our dislike for people in ways that are not always helpful

0:39.9

or productive.

0:42.2

Dylan Marin is the author of the book Conversations with People Who Hate Me.

0:46.9

A book that grew out of his podcast of the same name is a book about why we are, how

0:52.2

we are, and how we could change, how we could engage in ways that are meaningful and potentially

0:57.6

even transformative.

1:00.4

I loved this book because I needed it.

1:04.2

I have been a person who just gets online and is like, oh, I mean, tell you something

1:10.8

buddy, and I've also been on the receiving end of it and really, it never feels great

1:15.6

for anyone involved.

1:18.1

But Dylan's the person who wrote the literal book on this.

1:21.4

So let's hear from him.

1:28.2

I want you to tell me about the game of the internet and when you first started to play

1:34.1

it.

1:35.1

The game of the internet, I don't think I realized that I was playing the game of the

1:42.5

internet for a while.

1:44.0

I think in my early days, I definitely thought that the internet was this gift for all of

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