Welcome to the Jesus Calling Podcast. Today's guests help us see how science and

scripture can be connected in ways that explain our hurts and heal our pain.

Drs Henry Cloud and heal our pain.

Doctors Henry Cloud and Daniel Aeman.

First up, we have Dr. Henry Cloud,

a clinical psychologist and New York Times

best-selling author of more than 20 books,

including boundaries, which has now been expanded to include

boundaries for the digital age, a project he co-wrote with Dr. John Townsend in 1992.

Dr. Cloud is a leadership consultant who has given personal growth and development advice for

more than three decades. Today, he shares biblical and scientific support that show how healthy

emotional boundaries honor God, ourselves, and others.

I always say, God's word is unbelievable in how believable it is.

I mean, it's unfathomable the depths of what it actually

describes as science. I was just sitting on an airplane one day and I mistakenly told this lady next to me I was a psychologist

when she asked, which I don't usually do because then you're going to be talking for a long time.

Now I say, well I write books about Jesus, would you like to talk for a long time now I say well I write books about Jesus would you like to talk for a while

and you know their paper goes up right so she asked me and I said I was like she goes

I need to talk to you my boyfriend and the she comes out with story.

I said, what's the deal with your boy?

We always just broke up.

I'm devastated.

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