Hello, welcome to the show.

In the studio today is a writer and podcaster whose words of wisdom are seen by many people

as a Bible for living in millennial Britain.

It's Emma Gannon, and these are a five brilliant things.

Emma, thank you so much coming on the show. Thank you so much. I love the colour straight

away. I love that jacket. Well, I feel like this is the vibe of the show, isn't it?

Are you getting a lot of compliments for that today? It's a beautiful sort of summary day in London. And that, that, is it a coat? It's sort of like a light jacket, I would say. Maybe my grandma would have worn us, but, um. But she'd have been a funky grandma, but, you know, because that's bursting full of, that just feels like, that's your ideal head you're wearing I reckon I think also I'm going to wear this sort of stuff till I'm old so I just keep going basically but yeah it's like a spring day in London things are blooming blue sky and also everyone on the tube I do notice wears grey and stand out, but I don't mind. I think there's a thing in Scandinavia, I always get it wrong, but it's like the Lord of Junta. And the whole idea of it is that you wear, you know, quite neutral beige clothes so that you don't kind of stand out in any way. I hate that. I kind of love it.

I really like the way Billy Conley dresses.

It's kind of like big, bright colours like that.

The thing is, most people around me do wear that sort of blending in clothes,

which I think can look really chic, like a black blazer or like a neutral colour.

And I wonder, like, what a therapist would say about like needing

to be seen I know I feel like I do want to be like I'm here you know let's have fun and we were

talking off air that you found this quite an interesting exercise to try and put together what are the

the things I love yeah so what is the first? The first thing is my tarot cards.

Okay. I've actually brought them with me by the way if you want to see them. But basically

they are, this is a rainbow set which was recommended by a friend. So I went on a writer's retreat

in October last year. Whereabouts? In Cornwall. Nice there were like 10 of us. And it was just like some writers

talking, you know, bonding and chatting and getting to know each other. And we were all meant

to bring a thing and do a little, you know, workshop. And anyway, someone did a tarot workshop.

And I was just obsessed. Loved it.

And were you into tarot before that?

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