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This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C., and from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world.

Hello, and welcome to a special episode of Deep State Radio. This is David Rothkopf,

the hosts of the not-so-special episodes. What makes this one special is our, are our guests.

Two of the smartest people we know on all issues, nuclear, Joe Srincion. How are you doing, Joe?

Just great, David, all things considered.

All things considered. And our friend John Wolffstall, how are you doing, John?

As they famously say, ditto.

Ditto. Yeah, right. Yeah, I remember when everything was going well in the world, and I was afraid of asking John how things were going. So, you know, now, now, now, now, now that things are going really off the tracks,

it's, it's unnerving.

You know, I thought about having this conversation with you, because in the past few days,

as the world has come to grips with the fact that the

policy of the Trump administration is not just an adjustment on Joe Biden. It's not just to,

for example, change our, quote, policy with regard to Ukraine, but it's a strategic

realignment of the United States to become

effectively an ally of Russia and to become effectively an adversary of our traditional allies in NATO,

and that there is a whole pattern of behavior that is not just the crazy meeting that took

place in the Oval Office on Friday that

supports this, whether it's standing down cyber operations against Russia or standing down

operations that tracked crimes by Russian oligarchs or standing down the Department and the

Department of Homeland Security that protected us against

foreign interference in our elections, or it is putting a Russia propagandist ahead of the

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