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This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

Emergency Edition: The Ukraine Crisis

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.91.6K Ratings

🗓️ 2 February 2022

⏱️ 52 minutes

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As tensions rise on the Ukrainian border, are we looking at the first ground war in Europe since 1945? In an emergency roundtable edition of Doomsday Watch, Arthur Snell asks a panel of experts what’s driving Putin’s thinking, how far he and Russia are willing to go to achieve their aims, and if a disastrous conflict can be averted. Want to support us, get episodes early and extra content? Support us on Patreon and back us from just £3 per month now. “The question is less, ‘Is Russia going to invade?’ and more ‘When will Russia invade?’” - Romeo Kokriatski “The only person who knows what Putin is planning to do is Putin himself. It all depends on his mood when he wakes up in the morning.” - Artyom Liss “Putin saw the fall of the Soviet Union as a catastrophe. I wouldn’t fault anyone for thinking that he may want to rebuild the empire.” - Romeo Kokriatski “Younger people who are more western-oriented, are quite embarrassed by Russia’s position on Ukraine.” - Artyom Liss “The longer this goes on, European partners are likely to become more aligned with each other .” - John Lough “Russian is only scared of NATO in that NATO prevents Russia from bullying its neighbours around.” - Romeo Kokriatski DOOMSDAY WATCH was written and presented by Arthur Snell, and produced by Robin Leeburn – with assistant production from Jacob Archbold. Theme tune and original music by Paul Hartnoll. The group editor is Andrew Harrison. DOOMSDAY WATCH is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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October on ITV2 and ITVX. I'm Arthur Snapp, and welcome to our emergency

1:00.9

Doomcast, a special edition of DoomstayWatch.

1:12.4

We're here today on the 28th of January with a round table edition of our series. As

1:17.2

of course, right now we face the prospect of major conflict on European soil for the

1:22.8

first time since World War II. As we record, the world watches as Vladimir Putin gathers

1:29.1

his troops on Ukraine's borders, testing Ukraine and indeed NATO's nerve. We discussed

1:35.0

what Putin wants in the first series of Doomstay watch, and heard about Putin's desire

1:39.6

to face down NATO and use any measures he can to elevate Russia's power. As Peter

1:45.3

Palmer Ants have said in that episode, he will test Biden and NATO, and that seems

1:50.5

to be what he's doing right now. So what is the prospect of war, or can we pull Putin

1:56.4

back from the brain? Joining me to discuss these issues, we have a welcome return from Artyom

2:01.9

lists who appeared in our earlier series. Artyom is a media adviser and former BBC World

2:08.0

Service Editor in the region, and is currently on assignment in his native Ukraine.

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