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There are fantastic jewelry designer, there are fantastic ideas, but such an important turning point has not been done yet.

And for the moment, from an historical point of view, I think that we are stuck with

El Zaperetti. This was the last revolution in jewelry design. Welcome to if jewels could talk.

I'm Carol Walton, the voice of jewelry, an author, broadcaster, and the woman who initiated

the role of Jewelry editor at magazines like Tattler and British Vogue.

This is a podcast for everyone.

For people who do like jewelry, for people who don't realize they like jewelry,

and anyone intrigued by fascinating facts, new ideas and forgotten histories.

So please join me as I tell sparkly tales meeting all sorts of people delving into four

centuries of jewellery culture and investigate what's happening now.

I'm delighted this morning that we are going to talk about the great Elsa Perretti, the trailblazing woman and legendary jewelry designer who pioneered jewelry that women could buy for themselves and turned the tide of 20th century jewelry design.

We are going to talk about some of her iconic designs, her personal vision that changed the way

women wore jewels forever, her collaboration with Tiffany that began in 1974, and even half a

century later, some of these designs still appear on celebrities' wrists as the most fresh

and most modern. And I'm thrilled that we have here, Stefano Palombo,

who is the member of the board of Nando and Elsa Peretti's Foundation, and acted as Elsa's right hand

for over 25 years. Thank you, Stefano, for joining us this morning. It's so great that you've taken time out of your

schedule, dashing between Barcelona and Rome, taking care of all of Elsa's foundations and houses and

jewelry production to join us. So first of all, Stephanie, I wanted to talk about that incredible

image by Helmutin of Elsa when she was

modelling. It's on a Manhattan rooftop. She's dressed in a sort of playful fashion take on a

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