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Welcome to the good stuff. I'm Jacob Schick, a third generation combat marine.

And I'm his co-host and wife Ashley Schick. We believe everyone has a story to tell, not only about

the peaks, but the valleys they've been through to get them to where they are today.

We're joined by some amazing guests who share the lessons they've learned that shape

two they are and what they're doing to pay it forward and give back.

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This is Masters in Business with Barry Rittholz on Bloomberg Radio.

This week on the podcast I have an extra special guest. Her name, I almost said Medina Parwana.

Her name is Ellen Zettner and she is the chief U.S. economist at Morgan Stanley. She has a

fascinating career and is one of the highest ranked women in the world of finance today.

She is very, very insightful bringing a unique perspective to really what has been,

we talked about this during the podcast, a boys club filled with middle-aged white dudes who are

the average economist of days gone by and Ellen, and I couldn't agree more, argues that

the more diversity of opinion and thought we have in various organizations, the less likely we are

to have group think, the more likely we are to consider different perspectives and that's

enormously helpful when you have literally hundreds of billions of dollars at risk in the marketplace.

And being able to look at everything from that perspective is enormously helpful.

This was a fascinating conversation. If you are at all interested in economics, Wall Street,

how big firms operate, what it's like to travel around the world speaking of the clients and

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