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Evolution of a Snake: The Taylor Swift Podcast

Ellen DeTraumatizing Taylor Swift 💃🏻 TayRewind

Evolution of a Snake: The Taylor Swift Podcast

The Snakes & Studio71

Society & Culture, Music, Music Commentary

4.8826 Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2025

⏱️ 106 minutes

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Summary

GET TICKETS TO THE SNERAS TOUR / SHOP SNERAS MERCH: https://www.evolutionofasnake.com  Before she was known as the host who got canceled, Ellen DeGeneres was the queen of daytime, and Taylor Swift was a frequent guest. This week on TayRewind, we're unpacking the cultural power of the Ellen Show, why it was both a blessing and a curse for Taylor and how it helped shape her media narrative from the Fearless era through to Lover. From awkward boy talk and surprise guests to the Joe Jonas moment and the now-infamous dating bell segment, we trace Taylor’s complicated relationship with Ellen and what it says about the pop machine of the 2000s and 2010s. https://bit.ly/evolutionofasnake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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com slash defense. Certain terms apply, so be sure to check the site for details. Welcome back to

0:54.0

evolution of a Snake.

0:55.3

I'm Zach.

0:56.1

And I'm Madeline.

0:57.3

And today we're returning to you with a format that we haven't picked up in a while.

1:01.2

This is called Tay Rewind, where we go through a period of time in Taylor Swift's past in detailed depth that we might not get to go into on a yearly episode. And today,

1:12.3

you know who got put on the assignment? The bone collector. Period. People hate it when I call

1:18.4

myself that. I can't even make a joke anymore. I'm not allowed to tell. A man can laugh,

1:24.7

a woman can only chuckle. A man can laugh.

1:29.7

A bone collector can only chuffle.

1:32.5

I can't jokingly call myself the bone collector.

1:33.5

It's a joke.

1:34.8

It's just a movie.

1:35.5

You're an adult.

1:36.1

You should know that.

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