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Woman's Hour

Ellen DeGeneres, crime writer Denise Mina and Kids in Crisis After Covid

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture

4.13K Ratings

🗓️ 19 August 2020

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Three producers on the Ellen DeGeneres Show in the US have been fired amid allegations of misconduct and sexual harassment and reports that it was a "toxic workplace". As one of the highest paid and popular stars on TV Ellen ends her talk show with the catch phrase "be kind to one another". What is the impact on her popularity and reputation following the sackings? Jenni speaks to New York-based journalist and broadcaster Jane Mulkerrins.

At the age of 23, Camilla Thurlow was accepted by the HALO Trust to train in explosive ordinance disposal, finding and clearing landmines in some of the world’s most dangerous and inhospitable places. She then signed up for hit TV show, Love Island, where she came second. She describes it as the scariest thing she could have done. She subsequently impressed viewers in Celebrity SAS: Who Dares Wins, and has now written a book - Not the Type – Finding my place in the real world, about learning to confront her anxieties in a world dominated by celebrity culture. She now sits on the board of Indigo Volunteers and has a close relationship with the charity Choose Love/Help Refugees.

Coronavirus and the lockdown have changed things for everyone – but what kind of lasting impact will it have on the mental health of children? Jenni is joined by the Head of See, Hear Respond at Barnardo’s, Amanda Naylor and the Child Psychologist, Angharad Rudkin who explain how best to support children in the days ahead.

Denise Mina is the award-winning Scottish crime writer of novels including the Garnethill trilogy and The Long Drop. She joins Jenni to discuss her latest thriller – the Less Dead – which is inspired by real life murders of sex workers in Glasgow in the 1990s. Nanette Pollock – former DCI who worked in in Glasgow CID at the time of the murders - will describe her experience of the policing of sex workers in the city at that time, the murders, and an amazing cinematic meeting in the Ballroom at a central Glasgow hotel when 400 street sex workers met to discuss the murders and their personal safety Presenter: Jenni Murray Producer: Caroline Donne

Interviewed guest: Jane Mulkerrins Interviewed guest: Amanda Naylor Interviewed guest: Angharad Rudkin Interviewed guest: Denise Mina Interviewed guest: Nanette Pollock

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts

0:06.0

Hello, Jenny Marie, welcoming you to the Woman's Hour podcast for Wednesday the 19th of August.

0:13.2

Camilla Thurlow did her degree in sport science, was accepted by the Halo Trust,

0:18.9

to train to find and clear landmines, appeared as a contestant in Love Island,

0:24.9

found love, and now lives with Jamie Stewart. Why is her book called Not The Type?

0:31.5

Kids in crisis after Covid, as Bernardo's finds more than a million parents are concerned

0:37.2

about the mental health of their children. What components do to help them?

0:42.3

And a new novel by Denise Miner, the less dead, looks back to a series of murders of sex workers

0:48.9

in Glasgow in the 1990s. We'll be joined by Denise and by the former Detective Chief Inspector

0:56.3

who inspired Denise to write her story. Now, Ellen DeGeneres is one of America's most highly paid

1:04.9

and popular television presenters, but as you may have read in the papers,

1:09.5

all is not well on the Ellen DeGeneres show. Three producers have been fired amid allegations of

1:16.2

misconduct, sexual harassment, and reports of a toxic workplace. Yet she is known for her catchphrase

1:24.3

be kind. Indeed, she received the Presidential Medal of Freedom from President Obama, the highest

1:30.0

on her and American civilian can receive. It was for her constant drive towards equality

1:36.0

and acceptance for all. When I say be kind to one another, I don't mean only the people that think

1:41.2

the same way that you do. I mean be kind to everyone. So what is the impact on her reputation

1:49.5

following the alleged toxic culture in her workplace? Jane Mulcaran is a journalist and broadcaster

1:56.6

based in New York. Jane, what's the background to Ellen's great fame?

2:03.0

Good morning, Jenny. Well, yes, Ellen is, she started out as a comedian. She made her name in

2:08.3

stand-up before becoming an actress, a presenter, and really one of the biggest hosts in the US.

2:13.8

She's presented the Grammys and the Oscars. People have probably seen the selfie that she

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