Hey, wonderfuls. Welcome to episode 509 of the JV club with my wonderful guest, Ella McCloud.

You may know Ella from the Fantastic Comfort Creatures Podcast, which she hosts with Alexis B Preston,

formerly of the phenomenal Can I Pet Your Dog Podcast, with a similar theme and I'm so glad that comfort creatures exist. I had the opportunity

to be on their Bocco episode, this Max Fun Drive, because of course it is Max Fun Drive.

This is the second week of Max Fun Drive and you'll hear much more about it in our

breaks. Please check them out. Alexis came on for my pitch breaks and we had such a great time.

Much like the John Mo conversation.

It's way more than a pledge drive conversation.

It's like a little mini show.

Once again, I just want to shout out the things that you will make possible for yourself

and for me by joining or upgrading your existing

membership if you can. I absolutely hate asking for money but it is something that

the network needs and that I need to continue to have the amazing producer that I have and quite frankly to just be able to keep doing the podcast.

So for bonus content, which you can get access to at the $5 or up.

Contribution monthly, which is like one taco a month.

Think of yourself as buying me one taco a month.

Ugh, what a gift.

You will get my Visual Boco, the fabulous J.V club yearbook celebrating 500 episodes of the

podcast that listener and friend Shannon created that is available to you right now.

I love Shannon and her work and it's just

such a labor of love that I am so excited to share with everyone and it's cool that

it's a visual instead of audio thing but we also have the Bocco audio of Carrie Poppy and me reading to each other

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