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The Good Fight

Elizabeth Bruenig on Religion, Liberalism, and Wokeness

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.7963 Ratings

🗓️ 25 September 2021

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Elizabeth Bruenig is a staff writer at The Atlantic and a Catholic socialist who writes on topics as varied as capital punishment and mothering two children while in her twenties. Her work is uniquely marked by her ruby-red Texas upbringing, the elite professional world she now inhabits, and her deep sense of morality, which draws from both Christian theology and left-wing politics. In a wide-ranging conversation, Elizabeth Bruenig and Yascha Mounk debate the importance of dialogue across moral perspectives, whether wokeness bears any resemblance to theology, and how religious conviction can give rise to an authentically liberal defense of free speech. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: podcast@persuasion.community  Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John T. Williams, and Brendan Ruberry Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

A good night out. We've had some crazy times I don't even know we can talk about all of them but I feel like we led the mums astray if I'm honest.

0:06.5

Please not want too many likes in that. That's not a bad pub for a pint. He just kept laughing.

0:11.5

You're not like lary.

0:14.0

No.

0:15.0

But you're just a bit daffed.

0:16.0

I don't think we're normal to be honest.

0:18.0

Wife for me is nothing without the good times.

0:20.0

My friends and my, oh, sorry.

0:22.0

Just got to be f problem and the fuck that.

0:23.0

Beavertown, for humans and other social beings.

0:27.0

Please enjoy beavertown beer responsibly.

0:29.0

Visit drinkaware.coware.ukkowk.

0:30.0

UK. Okay. And now the good fight with Yasha Monk. and I'm a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and a columnist for persuasion.

1:05.1

I recently published a piece in persuasion titled How to Boost Vaccine U-Take, which advocates

1:10.5

paying Americans to take the COVID vaccine,

1:13.6

including not only those still unvaccinated,

1:16.6

but also those who have already received a jab.

1:20.0

Let me explain why I think this is both essential and fair.

1:25.2

After a flood of inoculations in the initial weeks and months of the domestic rollout,

1:30.0

America's vaccine uptake has slowed to a trickle with only just over a majority of Americans fully protected.

1:37.7

In fact, despite it strong started getting people fully vaccinated, the United States recently fell into last place among the G7 countries.

1:47.0

Some of the holdouts are the noisy anti-vax partisans you may see in the news.

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