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The Reith Lectures

Eliza Manningham-Buller: Freedom

The Reith Lectures

BBC

Society & Culture, Science, Government, Technology

4.2770 Ratings

🗓️ 20 September 2011

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

In this third and final Reith lecture the former Director General of the security service (MI5), Eliza Manningham-Buller, discusses policy priorities since 9.11. She reflects on the Arab Spring, and argues that the West's support of authoritarian regimes did, to some extent, fuel the growth of Al-Qaeda. The lecture also considers when we should talk to "terrorists".

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Edward Sturton. Thank you for downloading this podcast. For her third Reith Lecture called Freedom, Eliza Manningham Buller, the former Director-General of MI5, the British Security Service, discusses policy priorities since 9-11.

0:15.0

Welcome to the last of the 2011 BBC Reith Lectures. We're in the British Library in London, and this great engine of ideas

0:22.5

is a fitting place to end what's been a truly remarkable wreath series. The series is called

0:29.2

Securing Freedom, and it began with two lectures by the pro-democracy leader, Unsan Suu Kyi,

0:34.4

which had to be smuggled out of Burma, underlying the realities behind what she had to say

0:39.3

about dissent and the struggle for freedom and democracy.

0:44.2

Eliza Manning and Buller, who closes the series today, has had the job of protecting the freedoms

0:48.6

that people in democracies are lucky enough to enjoy. She was head of Britain's Security Service,

0:57.1

MI5. What she's already said about the war on terror, about torture and about Iraq has become a significant part of the public

1:03.4

debate prompted by the 10th anniversary of 9-11, which we've recently marked. We look forward

1:09.4

to equally provocative views on the broader foreign

1:11.7

policy questions she plans to address today. Please welcome the BBC Reith Lecture for

1:16.9

2011 Eliza Manning and Buller. It's fair to say, Eliza Manning and Bull, isn't it, that you are used to working in the shadows, at least discreetly.

1:35.4

And yet, by doing these lectures and by the things that you've said in the course of the lectures, you've put yourself very much in the spotlight.

1:42.4

Are you comfortable there?

1:44.1

Well, the last lecture was in Leeds,

1:46.0

and I had a dream the night before

1:48.0

where the Cabinet Secretary rang me on a mobile

1:51.6

and said, you mustn't give this lecturer, Eliza.

1:55.7

And I said, why not?

1:57.2

He said, you'll be arrested and prosecuted

1:59.2

under the Official Secrets Act.

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