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Elisa Malinverni, founder of Way of The Mother Bern, talks with J about handling the quarantines and moving forward. They discuss the similarities and differences between how Switzerland and the USA have dealt with the pandemic, the blog she wrote early on about teachers giving away classes for free and devaluing the profession, navigating the guidelines for in-person teaching, the deep value of community and circles of trust, and the need for teachers to reimagine their relationships with centers and retain individual platforms.