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Wow. Welcome to The Untold Story, everybody.

I'm Martha McCallum.

Great to have all of you with us.

And today I'm very glad to be joined by free press columnist Eli Lake.

And we spoke earlier this week, Eli and I, about what's going on at CBS. And I want to bring them right in. So Eli, thanks again for joining me. Great to have you with us.

So great to be here. Thank you so much for having me. So they really are going through kind of a crazy

period at CBS where they're being challenged, I think, understandably on a couple of fronts.

And I want to address the first one first, which was when Tony de Coupel and Taisi Coates, who many

people will remember as the author who kind of, I think, really got the conversation rolling about

systemic racism in the United States.

And now he has a new book out that he said he wanted to approach

from the Palestinian perspective.

And when he went on CBS's morning show

and spoke with Tony DeCouple about it,

who's one of their morning anchors,

it sort of took a turn,

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