Election Special: Nail-Biter Edition

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🗓️ 5 November 2020

⏱️ 31 minutes

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As a weary nation waits for mail-in ballots to be tallied, Michelle and Ross come together for a special election episode of “The Argument.” They debate the lessons and takeaways from a nail-biter of a race that is coming down to Georgia and Arizona. They discuss minority rule, and America’s failure to secure a governing majority. Michelle asks Ross where a narrow Biden victory and the clear continued appeal of Trumpism leaves the Republican Party, and Ross fears a Trump 2024 campaign. Plus, getting through this week of waiting with sedatives and Wiffle ball bats. For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument.

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0:00.0	I'm Michelle Goldberg.
0:01.6	I'm Ross Dauphet.
0:03.2	And this is a very special election edition of The Argument.
0:07.6	This election week, an anxious America waits for the final tallies to be counted,
0:13.6	and we try to make sense of what we know so far.
0:18.4	All right, here we are.
0:19.8	How you doing, Michelle?
0:21.0	I mean, not good.
0:22.8	And probably worse than I should be given the circumstances.
0:29.0	I mean, you know, I think that what is going on, not just for me, but for a lot of liberals,
0:35.8	is two different things.
0:39.0	Partly, the way that these results have trickled out and the order in which they have
0:45.4	trickled out has been extremely traumatic.
0:50.4	There was this moment on election night with Florida where it just felt like you were kind of
0:55.0	recapitulating 2016, which, as I've said before, has been, was the second worst night of my life,
1:02.6	was this like extreme, was this event that a lot of people have spent four years thinking
1:10.6	about how they were never going to have to go through again.
1:13.4	You know, if I told you then that this would come down to a nail-biter in Georgia and Arizona,
1:21.8	people would have felt pretty good, right?
1:24.4	I mean, I think that as we tape this and things are, things are far from, from clear.
1:31.0	Right. I should say for our listeners that we are recording this Thursday morning.
1:35.0	It is 9.43 a.m. at the moment.
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