Hello and welcome to Politics Theory Other, a podcast from Tribune magazine.

My guest today is Adrian Boller.

We spoke about how big the stakes are in the general election regarding the climate emergency.

We also talked about the recent channel for climate change debate

and what it tells us about the media discussion around climate.

And finally, we chatted about whether the green industrial revolution

used by the Labour Party in its manifesto is the right framing for mobilising around the climate crisis

Adrian Boller is Senior Research Fellow at Commonwealth and co-director of Labor for a Green

New Deal. Her work has focused on the intersection of the climate crisis and the financial system, and you can follow her on Twitter. Her handle is at Adri Bullah.

I began the interview by asking Adrian how significant a Labour victory on December 12, as opposed to a conservative one, would be for the question of averting the worst consequences

of the climate crisis.

Yeah. I think definitely it's impossible to overstate how important that would be. I think for a lot

of reasons, but I mean, we're going to speak to climate primarily here. So I think for a lot of reasons, but I mean, we're going to speak to climate primarily here.

So I think for listeners of this podcast, I don't really need to state again how dire the situation that we're in is.

You know, the window of time in which we can act is shrinking rapidly.

And, you know, this is sort of one of our last chances to,

to get ourselves on a path that has sort of any, any hope of driving the changes that we need

to see. And it's equally important, I think, because sort of in addition to the climate element,

I mean, you have, you know have the Greens and even the Liberal Democrats

coming out with lots of pledges.

All the parties are trying to green themselves as a selection.

But I'm of the mind that none of those things are workable unless we also tackle the other

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