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I'm Steve Mursky.

For this energy installment of our pre-election podcast series, I spoke once again to Scientific American

editors Mark Ficheti and Andrea Thompson.

What's at stake in this election in terms of energy in this country?

So I think there's two things, Steve. One is oil. On October 27th, the U.S. Department of Interior

approved a huge oil development project in Western Alaska by Conoco Phillips.

So that's clearly in Western Alaska by Conoco, Phillips.

So that's clearly where the current administration

is happy to go.

And I think the other issue is electricity. you know, will it be continue to be built on

fossil fuels or more so on renewable energy? I think there's a lot of

interesting state races that have some bearing on that too.

That's a good point because we're not just talking about the presidential election, we're talking about the election in general.

It's an interesting area because the president and Congress can shape things to a large degree, but then there are also market forces that come into play that can kind of counteract things he's trying to do.

So we've seen, you know, despite during the first four years of the

Trump administration, this push towards fossil fuels and to boost them, we've still seen

renewables really surge in their use and they've become

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