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Good morning and welcome to episode 441 of Effectively Wild the Daily Podcasts

from Baseball Prospectus presented by the BaseballReference.com Plan Decks. I am

Ben Lindbergh joined by Sam Miller a couple of weeks ago when Sam was on vacation

Russell Carlton and I spoke to Dark Hayhurst the former Major League

pitcher and author of multiple memoirs about doctoring baseballs and

beating batters and race relations in the clubhouse and we heard from a lot of you

about how much you enjoyed that show so we have brought Dark Back by popular demand

to discuss a couple new topics including his his fledgling career as a video game creator

but we'll get to that later I just wanted to start off by saying you know last time we talked

was after Panada and Pine Tire part one so now this is after Panada and Pine Tire part two

there's been sort of a narrative that's come up about player safety batter safety as relates to

Pine Tire which is something that I don't really recall hearing before I don't know whether it's

something that's surface because of all the the recent concerns about head injuries but

but this idea that that pitchers are justified in using these substances because if they didn't

it could endanger batter seems to have caught on what are your thoughts on that

my my thoughts Dirk Heyher's thoughts yes lazy as narrative to justify cheating I have

heard in a long time look if you have trouble gripping the baseball guess what kids they put

Rossin on the mound for you if your hand is cold and you can't get a grip you can blow on it to

warm it up Pine Tire doesn't make your hand warmer okay and Rossin does give you tack and those

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