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Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

Effectively Wild Episode 1626: The All-Time-Great-Grandfather

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

Ben Lindbergh, Meg Rowley

Sports, Baseball

4.72.7K Ratings

🗓️ 8 December 2020

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Ben Lindbergh and Meg Rowley banter about MLB’s long-shot attempt to recoup COVID-related losses from its insurance providers, Tomoyuki Sugano getting posted, and why the Phillies’ rebuild has stalled, then (36:45) talk to Sean Gibson, the great-grandson of Hall of Famer and Negro Leagues great Josh Gibson and the executive director of the Josh Gibson Foundation, about his campaign to get MLB’s MVP award renamed after Gibson, how he learned about his great-grandfather’s life, why he decided to devote himself to honoring the legacy of his great-grandfather and the Negro Leagues, common misconceptions about Gibson, Gibson’s skill as a catcher, what-ifs about Gibson’s career, efforts to collect Negro Leagues stats, the centennial of the Negro Leagues, the Gibson Foundation’s programs, and more.

Audio intro: The Mountain Goats, "Insurance Fraud #2"
Audio interstitial: Dan Bern, "Josh Gibson"
Audio outro: Neil Young, "Goodbye Dick"

Link to AP story about MLB suing its insurance providers
Link to Rob Mains on the MLB lawsuit
Link to Craig Calcaterra on the MLB lawsuit
Link to story about minor league lawsuit getting dismissed
Link to FanGraphs international prospect rankings
Link to Wheeler trade rumors
Link to Jeff Passan on the Wheeler trade rumors
Link to Sam Miller on the Phillies’ rebuild
Link to Josh Gibson Foundation website
Link to Sean Gibson’s article for The Undefeated
Link to MVP petition
Link to Pittsburgh Magazine article about Gibson
Link to Pittsburgh Post-Gazette article about Gibson
Link to Ben on MLB reclassifying Negro Leagues stats
Link to Gibson’s Seamheads page
Link to Shakeia Taylor on Dick Allen
Link to Jay Jaffe on Allen

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0:00.0

Bag full oily rags 50 cent lighter

0:07.0

Dreams are retirement and can't come

0:13.0

Burning ever brighter

0:16.0

There's a lot of ways to make money in this world

0:21.0

But I can't recommend insurance for all

0:25.0

Hello and welcome to episode 1626 of Effectively Wild, a fancraft space ball podcast brought to you by our Patreon supporters

0:32.0

I'm Meg Rallye, fancrafts, and I'm joined as always by Ben Lindbergh of the Ringer. Ben, how are you?

0:37.0

Not too bad, how are you? Not too bad.

0:39.0

You're right.

0:40.0

So, couple of Newsy things I wanted to touch on before we get to our guest today, who is Sean Gibson, the great grandson of Josh Gibson, the legendary Hall of Famer and Negro Leagues great.

0:53.0

He's also the executive director of the Josh Gibson Foundation and we'll be talking to him about Gibson and his legacy and the Negro Leagues and the campaign to get Gibson's name on the MVP award in the majors.

1:06.0

But before we get to that, some of you may have seen a report that MLB is trying to recoup some of its losses or claimed losses from the 2020 season by suing its insurers.

1:19.0

And there's kind of a almost amusing item here that I just wanted to mention.

1:25.0

So, this is not unique to MLB. Lots of people are trying to get money back that they lost or lost revenue from the strange circumstances of the pandemic.

1:36.0

And it seems like based on the consensus of people who are much more expert in this sort of thing than I am that this is a long shot that MLB may not even think they have a great shot here that it's just kind of well they might as well try.

1:50.0

And maybe they'll have a sympathetic judge or maybe they'll end up with a settlement or something seems to be worth trying evidently.

1:59.0

But not likely because most insurance policies have some sort of pandemic or virus exception those insurance providers, they're not dumb.

2:09.0

They plan for these things and anticipate these things.

2:12.0

And so that's one of the conditions that is often in these all risk policies that it's just sort of an exception is made.

2:21.0

Well, if there's a virus or if there's a pandemic, we're not liable. And some minor league teams tried to do this too.

2:29.0

They tried to sue their insurance providers over the summer. And that was tossed out. It was dismissed. And I think they tried to claim that it wasn't the pandemic or the virus is directly like that's the thing because of these exceptions.

2:44.0

And they just say, well, we didn't get to play our games because there was a virus because the providers have already provided for that.

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