Effectively Wild Episode 1267: The Ohtani Elbow Inquest
Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
Ben Lindbergh, Meg Rowley
4.7 • 2.7K Ratings
🗓️ 6 September 2018
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary

Ben Lindbergh, The Ringer’s Michael Baumann, and Tommy John surgery researcher Jon Roegele convene to discuss every aspect of the news that Shohei Ohtani will likely undergo Tommy John surgery, including how the Angels handled him and whether they bear any blame for the outcome, their recent rash of similar injuries and unusual treatments, Ohtani’s ongoing hitting heroics, whether his season was a success, the probable timing of his return as a hitter and as a pitcher, his future as a two-way player, and larger TJ trends in MLB.
Audio intro: The Smiths, "Death at One’s Elbow"
Audio outro: Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Made You Feel Better"
Link to summary of how the Angels handled Ohtani
Link to story about stem-cell treatments
Link to Jon’s Tommy John surgery database
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| 0:00.0 | Oh, Ben, don't come to my house tonight |
| 0:05.0 | Oh, Ben, oh, Ben, don't come to my house tonight |
| 0:15.0 | Because somebody here will take a hatchet to your ear |
| 0:23.0 | The frustration is my destiny painful |
| 0:28.0 | Hello and welcome to episode 1267 of Effectively Wild a baseball podcast from |
| 0:34.0 | Fangrafts presented by our Patreon supporters |
| 0:37.0 | I am Ben member of the Winger joined not today by Jeff Sullivan |
| 0:41.0 | because this is something of an improv to podcast emergency podcast that we have convened and Jeff is already on a trip |
| 0:48.0 | So today I am joined by my Winger colleague Michael Bamman, hello Michael |
| 0:52.0 | Hi, I, what has it been 30 hours since we talked last? |
| 0:56.0 | This is roughly, yeah, usually we get more week between conversations |
| 1:00.0 | We're talking on short rest |
| 1:02.0 | Yeah, but we had to have this talk now because we've already done our Winger MLB show for the week and we just couldn't wait to continue this conversation |
| 1:09.0 | But we are also joined by John Rogally, who is a writer for FanGraphs and The Heartball Times |
| 1:15.0 | and also a Tommy John surgery researcher, which is why we have asked him to join us today, John, welcome |
| 1:22.0 | Thanks, Ben, thanks Michael, nice to be here |
| 1:25.0 | Good to have you, except not great to have you under these circumstances |
| 1:29.0 | We are gathered here today to mourn the impending loss of |
| 1:34.0 | Show Hayotani's owner collateral ligament as we speak |
| 1:38.0 | He has not officially opted for Tommy John surgery |
| 1:42.0 | but it has been recommended to him and even the angels have recommended it to him |
| 1:47.0 | And so we are lashing out at the universe |
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