Oh, Ben, don't come to my house tonight

Oh, Ben, oh, Ben, don't come to my house tonight

Because somebody here will take a hatchet to your ear

The frustration is my destiny painful

Hello and welcome to episode 1267 of Effectively Wild a baseball podcast from

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I am Ben member of the Winger joined not today by Jeff Sullivan

because this is something of an improv to podcast emergency podcast that we have convened and Jeff is already on a trip

So today I am joined by my Winger colleague Michael Bamman, hello Michael

Hi, I, what has it been 30 hours since we talked last?

This is roughly, yeah, usually we get more week between conversations

We're talking on short rest

Yeah, but we had to have this talk now because we've already done our Winger MLB show for the week and we just couldn't wait to continue this conversation

But we are also joined by John Rogally, who is a writer for FanGraphs and The Heartball Times

and also a Tommy John surgery researcher, which is why we have asked him to join us today, John, welcome

Thanks, Ben, thanks Michael, nice to be here

Good to have you, except not great to have you under these circumstances

We are gathered here today to mourn the impending loss of

Show Hayotani's owner collateral ligament as we speak

He has not officially opted for Tommy John surgery

but it has been recommended to him and even the angels have recommended it to him

And so we are lashing out at the universe

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