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Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Edward Espe Brown: No Recipe

Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Tami Simon

Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.61.8K Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2018

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Edward Espe Brown is a renowned chef and Zen teacher who is best known as the first head cook at the Tassajara Zen Mountain Center. In addition to writing several cookbooks including the classic Tassajara Bread Book, Edward founded Greens Restaurant in San Francisco. With Sounds True, he has published No Recipe: Cooking as Spiritual Practice. In this episode of Insights at the Edge, Tami Simon speaks with Edward about Zen teachings on what it means to have to feel our way through the dark—both in the kitchen and on the spiritual path. They talk about cooking as a form of offering and why working with food can be one of the most potent ways to express our hearts in wholeness. Edward shares what he learned in his turbulent first days as the head cook for a spiritual community, including insights from his first Zen teacher, Shunryu Suzuki Roshi. Finally, Edward and Tami discuss what it means to seek out our heart's true desire, as well as how to embody that search in all that we do. (72 minutes)

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This program is brought to you by sounds true.com.

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At sounds true.com you can find hundreds of downloadable audio

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learning programs, plus books, music, videos, and online courses, and events.

0:14.3

At sounds true.com, we think of ourselves

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as a trusted partner on the spiritual journey,

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offering diverse, in-depth, and life-changing wisdom.

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Sounds True.com, many voices, one journey. Here's listening to Insights at the Edge. Today my guest is Edward S. B Brown.

0:46.0

Edward S. B. B. Brown was the first head cook at Tassahara Zen Mountain Center and later helped

0:52.1

found Greens Restaurant in San Francisco. He's the

0:55.8

author of several best-selling books including the Tassahara Bread Book and

1:00.5

the subject of the 2007 film How to Cook Your Life.

1:06.0

What sounds true, Ed has written a new book called No Recipe

1:11.0

Cooking a spiritual practice.

1:14.1

In this episode of Insights at the Edge, Ed and I spoke about the Zen teaching

1:19.7

to feel your way along in the dark, both in the kitchen and on the spiritual path, and how embodiment

1:28.1

is what is needed for this type of sensitivity and feeling.

1:33.1

We also talked about how to work with difficult emotions

1:35.8

in the kitchen, such as anger and sadness,

1:39.4

and how they can be embraced and included and can even energize and sensitize our cooking.

1:47.5

We talked about making food as an offering, empowering our hands to function as alive and awake hands, and the role of

1:59.9

sincerity and whole-heartedness, both in cooking and on the spiritual path.

2:05.8

And finally, we talked about aiming for our true heart's desire and how that is actually the central theme in Ed's new book, No Recipe.

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