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InsTech - insurance & innovation with Matthew Grant

Ed Howkins, Artificial & Sasa Brcerevic, Aon: Digitising risk trade: the future of wholesale broking (355)

InsTech - insurance & innovation with Matthew Grant

InsTech

Entrepreneurship, Investing, Business

4.850 Ratings

🗓️ 18 May 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

What happens when one of the world’s largest brokers and a digital-first underwriting platform team up to rethink risk trading? In this episode, Robin Merttens is joined by Sasa Brcerevic, Head of Portfolio and Delegated Strategy at Aon, and Ed Howkins, Chief Growth Officer at Artificial Labs. Together, they explore the evolving dynamics of wholesale broking, why now is the moment to digitise trading relationships and how insurers can stay competitive in a rapidly transforming landscape. The conversation offers a timely lens on the market-wide shift toward digital trading – not as a future ambition, but as an active and necessary response to competitive pressure. From the rise of underwriting-as-a-service to brokers leading platform innovation, this episode unpacks what insurers and brokers should be doing now to stay relevant. Key Talking Points Digitising the broker–underwriter interface: why transaction execution, not just placement admin, is the next frontier Strategic momentum: how digitisation moved from side project to boardroom priority across carriers and brokers Competitive catalysts: why fast movers are already capturing flow and shaping future adoption curves Platforms not portals: how Artificial is helping brokers remove friction while giving carriers underwriting optionality A new breed of carrier: exploring the shift from balance sheet-first models to digital risk transformation The data dividend: why data-rich submissions are changing how insurers allocate capital and differentiate themselves Incremental innovation: what makes today’s efforts different from past false starts and what good adoption looks like Reimagining broking: how Aon is investing in technology to build its future operating model Sustainable advantage: why the biggest long-term gains lie in improving service, not just margin Time to jump in: why delaying digitisation could leave carriers and brokers on the outside looking in If you like what you’re hearing, please leave us a review on whichever platform you use or contact Robin Merttens on LinkedIn. You can also contact Ed Howkins and Sasa Brcerevic on LinkedIn to start a conversation! Sign up to the InsTech newsletter for a fresh view on the world every Wednesday morning. Continuing Professional Development This InsTech Podcast Episode is accredited by the Chartered Insurance Institute (CII). By listening, you can claim up to 0.5 hours towards your CPD scheme. By the end of this podcast, you should be able to meet the following Learning Objectives: Describe how digitising wholesale broking can improve transactional efficiency and reduce operational friction. List the key challenges and opportunities in modernising risk trading processes between brokers and carriers. Explain how intentional digital adoption differs from previous waves of insurance market innovation. If your organisation is a member of InsTech and you would like to receive a quarterly summary of the CPD hours you have earned, visit the Episode 355 page of the InsTech website or email [email protected] to let us know you have listened to this podcast. To help us measure the impact of the learning, we would be grateful if you would take a minute to complete a quick feedback survey.

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0:00.0

Hello, welcome or welcome back to the Insect podcast.

0:13.0

This week we're joined by Artificial and Aeon, two organisations at the heart of reshaping how risk is traded in the London market.

0:23.6

Joining Robin on the podcast is Ed Halkins, Chief Growth Officer Artificial, who spoke at our recent evening event, hosted in April, and Sasser Breckovich, who leads underwriting transformation efforts at Aeon. Together they unpack how Aeon and Artificial are collaborating to digitise not just the broking process,

0:43.3

but the very interaction between brokers and underwriters at scale.

0:49.3

If you're curious about the future of wholesale broking, digitally deployed capital,

0:54.3

and why competitive pressure, not theory, is finally driving real change in insurance,

0:59.8

this episode is for you. Now let's dive into the conversation.

1:08.0

A very well welcome to this week's Intertech podcast. We're a threesome today because I'm joined by Ed Hawkins,

1:15.4

who's the Chief Growth Officer at Artificial Labs. Sasha Pekerevich, Aon. Welcome both. Good to see you, Robin. Thanks for having us. Great to see you, Sasha. Good Good to see again, Robin. Looking forward to this.

1:28.3

Sasha, we've learned each other for quite a long time.

1:30.3

You've got a variety of roles.

1:31.8

What are you up to at the moment?

1:33.1

Continuing focus on trying to oversee and provide guidance where we undertake underwriting

1:40.5

activities.

1:41.7

People in London Market will know a client Client Treaty and various other initiatives.

1:46.5

We are looking at digitization, which is going to be a topic of today.

1:51.0

We have big plans at Aon with respect to that.

1:53.7

A lot of it is to do with the digitization of the broken process itself, but we're also looking

1:58.8

at digitization of the actual trading activity

2:01.0

between us and the trading partners. Ed, this is your podcast. You've got Sasha's as your guest,

2:07.8

which suggests artificial labs and Aearner working on something together. I don't want the details,

2:14.2

but what can you share about the work that you and AOL are doing together?

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