Good evening. I'm Ali Rogan. John Yang is away. Countries around the world are facing a flurry of

steep new tariffs on goods sent to the United States. The White House's announcement yesterday

that it will impose hefty taxes on imports from nearly 70 countries next week triggered the

worst day on Wall Street in over a month. Those economic jitters were compounded by

weaker than expected jobs numbers, which prompted President Trump to fire the Bureau of Labor

Statistics Commissioner who produced them. Earlier, I spoke with Ernie Tedesky, former chief

economist for the Biden White House and the director of economics at the Budget Lab at Yale University.

We discussed the sweeping tariffs, but I began by asking him about the dismissal of the Labor

Statistics Commissioner Erica McIntyrefer.

Erica McIntyre is one of the most devoted public servants in government, and among economists,

one of the most data-focused and rigorous people that I know.

And you've written on X that this type of political interference sets a bad precedent.

What are your concerns?

The United States has some of the most trustworthy economic data in the world, both our labor

market data and our GDP data, lots of different

entities and consumers throughout the world rely on it for making important decisions.

If suddenly that data is politically manipulated and is not trustworthy, these people that use and rely on the data may have to go elsewhere

to less reliable sources for data and may make decisions that are not as sound, you know,

not as data-focused. And you've been tracking tariffs closely since the very beginning.

What do you think this

latest tranche of tariffs is going to do to the prices of everyday products?

Yeah. So I think over the next two to three years, you would see overall prices rise by

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