Hey everybody. Before we get started with today's episode, I just wanted to let you know that Restore tickets are now available with early bird pricing.

Restore is taking place September 25th through 27th of this year at the UCCU Center at Utah Valley University.

It is going to be the best one yet. And we'll be bringing more incredible speakers, music, and art, including some really exciting guests like

Sharon McMahon and Arthur Brooks. You can get your discounted pricing by buying your early bird tickets

now at faithmatters.org slash restore. Hey everybody, this is Aubrey Chavez from Faith Matters.

With Easter just a few days away, we're really excited to share this conversation with Amanda

Suarez and John Ogden.

Amanda and John are two of the co-founders of Uplift Kids, which is a lesson library and curriculum that helps families explore spirituality and values and emotional health.

Amanda is a school psychologist and a certified conscious parenting coach.

And John is a writer, curriculum creator,

and author of When Mormon's Doubt. In this conversation, Amanda and John offer a really beautiful

vision of Easter through the lens of what Brian McLaren calls the Harmony Stage of Faith. It's a

perspective they also bring to their work with uplift kids. They paint a picture of Easter

made more meaningful, not less,

by welcoming it all, the story of Jesus' resurrection, the chocolate bunnies, the deep questions,

and the simple joy. It's an approach that honors the unique developmental stage of each child

and the evolving faith of each adult. And for many families gathering this time of year,

that kind of

spaciousness can really matter, especially when there are likely a variety of beliefs around the

table and a wide range of needs from toddlers to teens to adults. So rather than avoiding

depth or walking on eggshells around belief, Amanda and John invite us to embrace the richness that

comes from letting all the layers belong.

...