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Sinica Podcast

Earth Day episode: How can the U.S. and China cooperate on climate in this era of competition?

Sinica Podcast

Kaiser Kuo

Culture, China News, Hangzhou, Chinese, International Relations, Chongqing, Beijing, Sichuan, Currentaffairs, China, Politics, Chengdu, Shanghai, Guangzhou, China Economy, News, China Politics, Business, Film, Shenzhen

4.8676 Ratings

🗓️ 27 April 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

This week on Sinica, an Earth Day special: Kaiser chats with Marilyn Waite, managing director of the Climate Finance Fund; Alex Wang, a UCLA law professor who specializes in China climate and environmental law; and Deborah Seligsohn, a political scientist at Villanova University who served as the Environment, Science, Technology and Health Counselor at the U.S. Embassy in Beijing. This episode was taped live on Thursday, April 20, as a webinar from The China Project.

5:24 – Taking stock: Where have we come since the first Earth Day in 1970?

14:24 – Is the Inflation Reduction Act an unalloyed good for the environment and climate?

17:17 – The good and the bad of China’s recent record on climate

20:45 – The unmet need for climate finance globally, and what China’s PbOC is doing right

27:54 – Should we roll our eyes when China speaks of “ecological civilization”?

31:57 – Embracing the JEDI approach in addressing climate change

35:30 – Can the U.S. and China harness competition to drive better climate outcomes?

39:54 – Why pushing each other won’t work, and cooperation is still needed

45:15 – Addressing hard-to-abate sectors like agrifood

50:30 – Balancing cooperation and competition between the U.S. and China on climate

A complete transcript of this episode is available at TheChinaProject.com.


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0:00.0

Welcome to the Cynica podcast, a weekly discussion of current affairs in China, produced in partnership with the China Project.

0:16.1

Subscribe to access from the China Project to get access, access to not only our great daily newsletter,

0:22.0

but to all of the original writing on our website at theChinaproject.com.

0:26.8

We've got reported stories, essays, and editorials, great explainers, and trackers,

0:32.0

regular columns, and of course, a growing library of podcasts.

0:36.4

We cover everything from China's foreign relations to its

0:39.3

ingenious entrepreneurs, from the ongoing repression of Uyghurs and other Muslim peoples in China's

0:44.9

Xinjiang region to Beijing's ambitious plans to shift the Chinese economy onto a post-carbon

0:51.0

footing. It's a feast of business, political, and cultural news about a nation

0:56.1

that is reshaping the world. We cover China with neither fear nor favor. I'm Kaiser Guo,

1:02.1

coming to you from Chapel Hill, North Carolina. Last week on Thursday, April 20th, I hosted an online

1:08.4

event in honor of Earth Day and invited three excellent guests to talk

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about how we should address the urgent issue of global warming in a time of heightened great power

1:18.2

competition.

1:19.5

We decided to make a podcast of it, which I now present with apologies that I didn't

1:24.8

include the usual recommendations segment.

1:26.9

Sorry, folks.

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Nevertheless, I hope you enjoy and that you learn something from these brilliant folks,

1:32.0

Marilyn Waite, Alex Wong, and Deborah Selleigson.

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Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening to you all,

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and welcome to this online conversation about how the United States and China, which rank

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respectively as the world's largest cumulative and largest current greenhouse gas emitters,

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