E61. Helen Dale and the Changing Rules and Ramifications of Cancel Culture

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🗓️ 19 December 2019

⏱️ 97 minutes

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Summary

Helen Dale is a columnist and commentator who also writes novels. Her first novel, The Hand That Signed the Paper, won the Miles Franklin award in Australia and also exposed Helen to cancel culture in 1995, long before it became what it is today. She and Bridget discuss the impossibility of proving you didn't do something, the fact that all press is no longer good press, how most lobbyists are morally feral, and why most valuable thing about free speech is not what people say, it’s the fact that people can speak. They cover how to react when the mob comes for you, the importance of the secret ballot, the fact that stereotypes don’t exist in a void, and how part of being a grown up is accepting that people will laugh at you. Full transcript available here: WiW61-HelenDale-Transcript

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0:00.0	Thank you for listening to this Podcast One production.
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0:08.3	This is Walk-In's Welcome with Bridget Petacy.
0:10.9	I'm Bridget Petacy, I'm Bridget Petacy and you are welcome. You know the drill.
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0:34.8	Helen Dale won the Miles Franklin Award for her first novel, The Hand that signed the Paper,
0:39.7	and Red Law at Oxford and Edinburgh.
0:42.9	Her most recent novel, Kingdom of the Wicked,
0:45.3	has been shortlisted for the Prometheus Prize for Science Fiction.
0:49.1	She writes for a number of outlets
0:50.6	including The Spectator,, the Australian standpoint, and
0:53.5	Colette. She lives in London and is on Twitter. I'm with Helen Dale. Hi.
0:58.4	Hello Bridget, how are you? I'm great. Thank you for coming to my little studio and all the way across the pond all the way
1:05.8	across the pond all the way from Blighty that's a flight it is over here it is I didn't
1:11.9	realize that it was eight hours time difference at this time of year from London.
1:19.7	And I arrived and I in San Francisco because I've been here for nearly two weeks now and I was so jet-lagged.
1:27.0	Yeah. I literally didn't know what day it was.
1:30.0	I was a disaster going to London I mean it was same thing it was it took me
1:37.2	two days to really fully well I'm not hugely looking forward to the Friday
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