Hey Brett here quick reminder if you've ever wanted to write a book and maybe you don't want to sell it on Amazon maybe you just want to put something out there maybe it's something you want for your family or your legacy we can help. I introduced this year something I call our writer's workshop course and services hope you either one-to-one or in a small group format depending on what you like Clarify your idea. I hope you get structure I have had a best-selling book that I've self-published and I also have a book that's coming out next year with Penguin Random House or the portfolio imprint One of the largest publishers in the world. That's not a flex. That's me simply saying, I've been there, I've done this, I know how messy the process is, and I would love to help. So if you've ever wanted to write a book or you've wanted to put something out into the world in any kind of creative way, shape, form, make sure to reach out to us, go to info or email us at info at artofcoaching.com. That's info I and F O at artofcoaching.com and say, Hey, I'm interested in the writer's workshop course or help writing a book that I heard about on the podcast and our team will get back to you. It would be my sincere honor to help you through this period. Hey, one more here. If you've ever wanted to get away, maybe your stress, you haven't had a lot of time to focus

on your own stuff lately. You know that when you're home, you want to be with family, when you're at work, you want to double down on that. But you need some time to just get away, to brainstorm, to mind-map. Maybe it's a certain business problem you're facing. it's an issue with your team and a leadership issue. I do one-to-one intensive retreats where

you can actually come out to my home for one or two days and we focus exclusively on building a strategy around your problem. We'll cook some food, we'll be active, we'll do some workouts, anything like that, or we can just sit in a room with a massive whiteboard all day and you will get my complete and undivided attention. I love strategy and I love helping people like you and also like me who are often overwhelmed and trying to do it all find solid ground and move forward with confidence. So if this is something that interests you, reach out to us. Just email us at info at artofcoaching.com. That's info at artofcoaching.com and say, Hey, I heard about the private

retreats Brett does. I love to get involved in some of that strategy. Please give me more

details and I will reach out to you personally or my me my life. Now, I help others navigate the great area of social interaction, power dynamics, and communication. So they can become more adaptable leaders, regardless of their profession, age, or situation. This podcast is for everybody who is fascinated with solving people problems. So if you're in the no nonsense type who appreciates frank conversations, advice you can put to use immediately and learning how others navigate the messy realities of leadership, you're in the right place. I'm glad that you're joining us. Let's dive in. Hey, thanks for joining me with another conversation. I'm here with David Clancy. David, it's been a minute, buddy.

Brett, been a few years since we had a really long conversation, but we also cut up over a drinker

to and some Tex mix not too long ago. Absolutely. Yeah, good to see you too. Guys,

for context, just so if you're flying the wall, I recently bumped into David. Most recently,

when we were doing an in-service with the Houston Texans.

David, if you have listened to the bio

and we'll get into some of that here as well, has a decorated background across sports performance, consulting, sports medicine, physiotherapy, you name it. Now, but one of the reasons I wanted to have him on the show and David, just talking to you too, right, as we talked about, hey, we'll touch on some of those things,

but we also want to talk about some things

that a lot of people are just going through right now.

And this is kind of how with your permission,

I'd like to start the discussion. and you too, right? As we talked about, hey, we'll touch on some of those things, but we also wanna talk about some things that a lot of people are just going through right now.

And this is kinda how with your permission, I'd like to start the discussion. A lot of people recently have reached out to us mainly because I transitioned out of strength conditioning and I started doing different stuff in different industries and kinda said, hey, I'm at a point where I'm thinking about either making a change in my career,

taking a change in my profession,

for whatever reason.

I mean, and that's a very natural thing.

People get into their 30s and their 40s and they start realizing that their passions either vary, or maybe they're staying in the same field, but they want to, you know, kind of get a different take on it or a different lens. I would just love to know, and there's a broad runway here, So take it where you want. You know, what made you get into the field that you're in and contextualize that?

What made you chase certain passions? How have your interests evolved, and then we'll get into more specifics later on. But just talk to me about how you chose what you even do now and ground that. It's a great question, and I think I can also say to that, I'm not sure if this is is where I'm going to stay. So I think it's very fair to say that I'm enjoying what I'm doing right now. There's passion, I love it, I feel like I can add value but it could change in five years. And you kind of touch on something that's interesting and I think about it as a large and I have conversations around it a large that sports medicine, physio, yes, and kind of identified as that for so long, but ultimately, I was curious about other things, Brett. I was curious about what business was. I was curious about dealing with staff, not just athletes. I was curious about what's a podcast. So I mean, I think that's a big thing for me, kind of following my curiosities over the last five, six years. And even now I'm in a space, kind of two spaces where yeah, I'm probably back to something I really think I can add value to. I enjoy it. Probably see myself in the next five, six years here. But I think anyone that's looking to try something different, I think just ask yourself the question, why and kind of why you now and what's the reason that you're interested in doing something different. And it's okay to not know as well. And it's okay to try something and mess up and try again something different. I mean, I did that. Yeah, it's good advice. I think the one thing, and it's my job to sometimes

be devil's advocate on this and speak on behalf of the audience. And I can jump in here too if you wanna make it a collaborative thing. What some people would say is, well listen, and I know you could speak to this because you're a father, right? Like I have kids, and I'm scared to get into an unpredictable business, so I'm scared about the unknown. and I can't, I mean, I know I have one client

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