E278. We're Being Driven Towards A New Kind of Racism - Coleman Hughes

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🗓️ 28 March 2024

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Coleman Hughes sits down with Bridget to discuss his latest book, The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America. They talk about why people don't want to hear that the world isn’t as racist as they think it is, how racism sells very well as a news item, the realities behind disparities between races, what Coleman terms "neo racism," and the radical belief that black people are neither better nor worse than any other race. They cover why we should not racialize basic human concepts, the most surprising thing he learned while writing the book, instances of actual racism that he's seeing in society, why incremental progress should not be discounted, comforting falsehoods which help no one that come out of neo racism, the human phenomenon of slavery, why America is not unique, the debate about Civil War statues, the 1619 project, and transcending racial identity for a common passion. Sponsor Links: - Some More News - https://bit.ly/WiW-SomeMoreNews

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0:00.0	I'm back with Coleman Hughes everybody welcome to Watkins welcome
0:02.9	welcome back it's good to see you good to see you too bridge it
0:06.4	uh one yeah it has been too long congratulations on your book I'm really excited
0:11.0	for you the end of race politics. How is the response been?
0:15.4	Response has been great. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I've gotten I got even
0:21.0	semi warm coverage in the New York Times, which I think would have been unthinkable three or four years ago.
0:28.0	Yeah, that was I have a couple I mean I was wondering if overall you feel like things are trending, you know, what the trend seems like to you as somebody who kind of lives in and breathe the culture wars yourself.
0:41.0	Yeah, I mean the elite trend is definitely away from wokeness, social justice.
0:46.7	There are many examples of this. My piece is just being one, another being the
0:52.2	recent piece about rapid onset gender dysphoria in the New York Times
0:57.2	by I think Pamela Paul was her name something like that.
1:01.6	A lot of things getting, I mean the times I think is a it's kind of a bellwether and a lot of things that are being written there and said there are things that would have been considered
1:13.2	kind of anathema five years ago, unfairly so, but I think that's that's a part of a positive trend. If Trump, if Trump wins, it may all reverse and it may be a repeat of 2016 to 2020 all over again.
1:27.7	I know I was just saying this the other day to somebody that I feel like we're making progress but it could all we could be
1:34.8	back where you know it's the existential the one and only existential threat and
1:41.0	everything else goes back, like you said,
1:46.2	reverts to the 2016, 2020 years, which were actually insane
1:51.5	when you really consider some of the stuff that went down.
1:55.0	I saw a lot of the stuff that was going on with Ted.
1:59.0	I don't know if you have any interest in talking about it or if you can but you did your talk about
2:06.3	color blindness and then there was a lot of drama it seemed that kind of
2:12.1	unfolded behind closed doors at Ted and then has it
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