Welcome to the Annagram journey. My guest today is Phil Dickie. He's young and smart and a

night on the Annagram. Well, that's that covers it all. Young and smart. I don't feel that young anymore.

I just turn 34. I originally came from Missouri and I grew up born and raised South Coast Missouri on a farm with a farm boy and made my way to Texas.

What was the I always say that I wasn't born here but I got here as quick as I could to

actually took a job at Highland parking out of Methodist and that was August of 07

so in August it'll be 11 years that I've been there. I did not ever

plan on being a pastor, but I am now officially an ordained clergy person, the United Methodist

Church, and have again been there a little over 11 years and I

currently work with our young adults at the church and then our online ministry as well.

So that's kind of what keeps me busy as well as having a family.

Yeah, so talk about your beautiful bride and those little girls.

I have, we will have been married 10 years in December and we have two little girls, one that five Nora and one that is three Betsy and

then we have a little boy coming in July that's so exciting when in July 13th is the

due date. Yeah.

But I'm convinced that we're not going to make it that far.

So we'll see what happens.

I want you to talk about how being a nine helps you navigate between progressive and traditional because you and Joe happen to be pastors in a church that navigates between

progressive and traditional thinking like I'm not talking about

worship I'm talking about progressive and traditional thinking and

to further set the table to hear you talk about that for a bit. I

Don't know if you've heard me say in the last months that I really think right now in the world

it is a season for six is nine's. Six is because they carry a desire for the

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