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American Prestige

E232 - Can American Power Be Redeemed? w/ Shadi Hamid

American Prestige

Daniel Bessner & Derek Davison

History, News, Politics

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2026

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Subscribe now to skip the ads and get all of our episodes. Danny and Derek are joined by Shadi Hamid, columnist at The Washington Post and author of The Case for American Power, to talk about American hegemony and Hamid’s argument for it as a morally preferable and potentially reformable force in international politics. They discuss Gaza and the crisis of liberal internationalism, democracy and self-correction, American decline, China and Russia, intervention and restraint, the Middle East exception, Libya and “humanitarian war,” and whether it is possible to separate the “good” uses of American power from the bad. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:09.7

And we're very excited to welcome back to the podcast today. Shadi Hamid. Shadi is a columnist at the Washington Post,

1:15.6

and he's also the author of the recently released The Case for American Power. Shadi,

1:21.3

thank you so much for joining us yet again. Thanks so much for having me.

1:25.4

So this book is, as it says, the case for American power.

1:29.9

But before we get into that, oh, I first looked at the blurbs.

1:33.3

This is like the Lib Pantheon up here.

1:35.6

Noah Feldman, Francis Fukuyama, Michael McFall, friend of the pod, and Anne-Marie Slaughter.

1:41.0

Oh, my God. It's the fearsome of the Lib foreign policy establishment.

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