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That's kind of conversation to your soul.

That's conversation between your soul and the night. Hello, American Prestige listeners, it's Derek.

I am joined, as always, by my friend and comrade Danny Bessner, and we are very pleased to welcome to the program to prestigious guests.

We've got returning champion, Van Jackson, the author of the undiplomatic newsletter, and

joining us for the first time, Julia Gledhill, she is a researcher at the Stimson Center. They are

co-hosts together of

the undiplomatic podcast along with Matt Duss, and we are very happy to have them both in the show.

Thank you guys for joining us.

Great to be here.

Thanks for having us, yeah. So we're here to talk about the glorious national security strategy

that the Trump administration just rolled out. As we're recording

this, I believe it's been a little under a week since they did this. And I guess maybe just to give

people some sense of what these things are. Let's talk about, in general, what a national security strategy

is and what it is not. These are aspirational documents that presidential administrations put out

to define their foreign policy goals. They rarely hold up when the rubber hits the road,

but they're important as a set of priorities, I guess.

So why don't we talk first about just the construct itself?

Yeah, well, I can maybe start.

So national security strategies are basic congressional requirements intermittently,

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