This week I welcome journalists and podcaster Josh Zeppes.

Culture war issues that when you don't talk about them, whether that's vaccine side effects or

concerns about pediatric transgender issues or the relationship between the races and whether or not

countries like Australia and America are irredeemably white supremacist nations, you know, with a pride

makes sense gay pride in the modern era, like all of those kinds of things that you find

public broadcasters and the New York Times being too polite to talk about.

I think we need to do a better job of actually engaging with because otherwise what happens is

you get this large number of disaffected people who sort of smell a rat and think that the mainstream

media is full of shared and go off and find other sources of information, some of which just

starts spiraling out out of control into true weirdness. This is Watkins. Welcome with Bridget

Pettasy. I'm Bridget Pettasy and you are welcome.

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internet heroes at Fettasy.com. I'm with Josh Zebs, everybody. Welcome to Watkins. Welcome.

Looking so wonderful to be here. It's great honor. I've just spent the past 45 minutes like an

old man trying to set up my laptop to get the webcam working because Bridget, all of my stuff

is Apple stuff and now I've got a work PC laptop that they've given me and it prompted me that I

needed to install Chrome updates. There was like background network updates or some bullshit

like that and so I click yes and just expecting it to restart and 42 minutes later it's still at

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