E166 | Dr. Katy Milkman: How to Change - The Science Of Getting From Where You Are to Where You Want to Be

The Art Of Coaching

Brett Bartholomew

Health & Fitness, Business, Education

5 • 642 Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2021

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

We all know people who don’t enroll in the 401k program at work despite understanding the power of investing or those who won’t stop smoking even though there’s a history of lung cancer in their family. But while incredibly frustrating to the outside observer, we are all resistant to change in some aspect of our lives. Understanding where and why we resist change is important because modifying the behavior of those we lead is often central to our mission. And what do we do when information and rational persuasion don’t work? Today we have the pleasure of talking to a world renowned behavioral scientist, Dr. Katy Milkman about what makes change so hard, strategies to tackle these barriers and how to harness the power of a fresh start. Dr. Milkman is the James G. Dinan Professor at the Wharton School, author of How to Change: The Science of Getting from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be, co-founder and co-director of the Behavior Change for Good Initiative, and host of the Choiceology podcast from Charles Schwab. We discuss: Why information and logic alone doesn’t change behavior “Fresh starts” and the science of timing Planning for disruption and the power of expectations What’s the “price for the vice”? Barriers to change and how to overcome them Connect with Dr. Milkman: Via her website: www.katymilkman.com/book Via her podcast: Choiceology Via Twitter: @katy_milkman We’re starting to travel again for our Apprenticeships (if you haven’t joined us for one yet, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!) and it’s been difficult to make sure we're managing both nutrition and exercise on the road. Luckily, we have two partners who are perfectly aligned to help us through this transition. Momentous has the cleanest protein and supplements I’ve ever tried (truly the only ones that don’t make me feel like crap afterward), and Saga’s BFR cuffs allow me to get an incredible workout in my hotel room or AirBnB. Whether or not you’re traveling right now, be sure to give them some love for supporting your favorite podcast! https://www.livemomentous.com/pages/partner-brett (BRETT25 gets you 25% off) https://saga.fitness (BRETT20 gets you 20% off)

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Art of Coaching Podcast, a show aimed at getting to the core of what
0:10.8	it takes to change attitudes, behaviors, and outcomes in the weight room, board room,
0:15.7	classroom, and everywhere in between.
0:18.6	I'm your host, Brett Bartholmue.
0:20.0	I'm a performance coach, keynote speaker, and the author of the book, Conscious Coaching.
0:24.5	But most importantly, I'm a lifelong student interested keynote speaker, and the author of the book, Conscious Coaching. But most importantly, I'm a lifelong student
0:26.6	interested in all aspects of human behavior
0:29.2	and communication.
0:30.6	I want to thank you for joining me,
0:32.0	and now let's dive into today's episode. Behavior change is a core objective of any leader.
0:49.8	And all of us, regardless of where we come from, our intelligence level, or our experiences,
0:55.2	can be really stubborn at times and struggle to get out of our own way.
0:58.7	Now, why hasn't this fact changed in the hundreds of thousands of years humans have been
1:03.3	on this planet?
1:04.7	Why, despite all of the books and the resources that are out there and the hard lessons learned,
1:09.7	do we still struggle to do simple things like save for retirement, quit smoking, be more active,
1:15.6	alter the way we communicate with others, or overcome basic daily obstacles that end up
1:20.8	causing us time, money, sometimes even relationships.
1:29.7	I mean, literally even when you try to mentor somebody, if you've been a mentor,
1:34.2	you know that eventually you're going to see somebody not take your advice and learn those lessons the hard way.
1:36.1	And it never matters how many of came before them.
1:39.5	Now, usually this is because we fail to understand the realities of human nature.
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