Welcome back to the Annie Graham Journey. I'm excited to share the next nine weeks with you as I talk

with each of the nine numbers about their way of being in relationships. We'll talk about

their strengths and weaknesses, how they behave and stress and security, the

gifts they offer in relationships, and the struggle they face to be better and more loving.

All of this leads up to the release of my new book, The Path Between Us.

My guest today is Eni-Gram 5 Casey Macomb.

The two things that stood out for me in our conversation are first the challenges

he faced in ministry and the courage it took for him to leave. And second, the work he and his

wife, a one, have done to strengthen their relationship with one another and their children.

I hope you enjoy our conversation. I did.

So Casey, welcome to the Antigram Journey.

Thank you, thank you, good to be with you.

So there are a lot of things I want to talk about.

Your name is Casey and you're married to Casey. Yes. And you're a five and she is struggling most of the time between two numbers.

Yeah, she is she claims she's a one and I think that's right but there is a massive nine wing there a lot of nine energy there as well which is pretty common for that area of the endagram but yeah but she's a she's a one so and she has a great desire to know for sure that she's a nine or a one and so I just want to say because of her she's present with us even though she's not here, that

that's a very common thing on the any ground.

The hardest two numbers to differentiate in terms of learning your number are between 9 and 1.

And she has asked me some really hard questions that help me help other people.

Another thing that I hope we can explore a little bit today,

and you all have two kids.

Their names are Casey and Casey.

No they're not.

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