If you want to know something about yourself, sit on your bed one night and say,

what's one thing I'm doing wrong that I know I'm doing wrong, that I could fix,

that I would fix? You meditate on that? You'll get an answer and it won't be one you want,

but it'll be the necessary one. When you're trapped, some of it's your own inadequacy.

What you can do to begin with is every bloody thing you possibly can do to put yourself in the most

virtuous and powerful negotiating position possible. Wherever I go in the world, people come up to me and

they often have a pretty rough story to relate. It's an awful thing because you see even in the

revelation of their triumph, the initial depth of their despair. So I wouldn't change that,

but it's not nothing. It's certainly not just happiness. It's better than happiness,

but it's almost unbearable.

Kitchen and have a conversation with me and what a conversation it was. One of the most moving

moments in the history of this podcast takes place in this conversation. I think the thing that

people love about Jordan Peterson is his unrelenting desire to just say what he believes to be true,

not what he believes to be correct, not what people want to hear, not what people will be happy to

hear. And it's because of that. It's because of his pursuit of truth that he's managed to change

millions and millions and millions of people's lives. That is absolutely no understatement.

So without further ado, I'm Stephen Bartlett and this is the Diary of a CEO. I hope nobody's

listening. But if you are, then please keep this to yourself.

First, I feel like I owe you a debt of gratitude. I want to say thank you for the impact you've had

on my life. And I'll point at the specific impact you've had on my life. And you asked me before

we start recording why this podcast has been successful. One of the reasons is actually something I've

gained from reading and listening to your work. And that's this real commitment to trying to be

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