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Political Gabfest

E. Jean Carroll, ‘Why Didn’t You Scream?’

Political Gabfest

Slate Podcasts

Politics, Government, News

4.58.3K Ratings

🗓️ 4 May 2023

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and the New York Times’s Jamelle Bouie @jbouie discuss the battle between President Joe Biden and Speaker Kevin McCarthy on raising the debt ceiling; the courtroom drama of E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump; and the power of Republican supermajorities in state legislatures. Here are some notes and references from this week’s show: Nick Mourtoupalas and Derek Hawkins for The Washington Post: “Washington is running out of workdays to strike a debt ceiling deal” Jacob Bogage for The Washington Post: “Debt ceiling showdown: 5 possible outcomes” Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States Lola Fadulu for The New York Times: “In Trump Trial, a Lawyer Pushes, and E. Jean Carroll Pushes Right Back” Jamelle Bouie for The New York Times: “A Sinister New Page in the Republican Playbook” and “Republicans Did Something Most People Don’t Like, So They’re Changing the Rules” Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution of the United States Movement Advancement Project: “Snapshot: Democracy Ratings By State” Michael Waldman for the Brennan Center for Justice: “The Great Resignation … Of Election Officials” James Madison: “Federalist No. 10” Here are this week’s chatters: Jamelle: the films of Seijun Suzuki, including Tokyo Drifter and Branded to Kill John: using ChatGPT to simplify text, such as statements by the Federal Reserve and George Washington’s farewell address Emily: Eleanor Klibanoff for The Texas Tribune: “Three Texas women are sued for wrongful death after allegedly helping friend obtain abortion medication” and “Women accused of facilitating abortion in Galveston wrongful-death lawsuit file countersuit” Listener chatter from Ted Hogeman: Community Media Center, Institute for Contemporary Art, Virginia Commonwealth University For this week’s Slate Plus bonus segment, Jamelle, John, and Emily discuss cooking, including roast chicken with bread, Jubilee: Recipes from Two Centuries of African American Cooking by Toni Tipton-Martin, broccoli and cauliflower salad with curried dressing, broccoli salad with peanuts and tahini-lime dressing, and Soom tahini. In the next Gabfest Reads, Emily talks with Curtis Sittenfeld @csittenfeld about her latest book, Romantic Comedy. Email your questions and chatters to [email protected] or Tweet us @SlateGabfest. (Messages may be quoted by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Podcast production by Cheyna Roth Research by Julie Huygen Make an impact this Asian American & Pacific Islander Heritage Month by helping Macy’s on their mission to fund APIA Scholars. Go to macys.com/purpose to learn more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, Gapfess listeners. Just a heads up, we're going to be talking about sexual assault in the

0:04.4

second segment of the show today, and some of the details may be upsetting.

0:13.3

Hello and welcome to the Slate Political Gap Fest.

0:25.2

Thursday, May 4, the Why Didn't You Scream Edition.

0:30.0

I'm Emily Baslon from the New York Times magazine and Yale Law School.

0:33.7

David Plott's is away this week, and so I am delighted to be joined by Jamel Buie,

0:39.2

who is a calmness for the New York Times. Hey Jamel. Hello.

0:43.0

And also with us, of course, is John Dickerson of CBS News Prime Time. Hi, John.

0:48.6

Hello Emily. Hello, Jamel. On the show today, we'll talk about the fight over the

0:53.4

debt ceiling. Is there a way out of what looks like a huge impasse that could lead to a default

0:59.2

on the national debt? Our second topic is a trial about the allegations that the writer E.

1:05.3

Jean Carroll has made of rape and defamation against former President Donald Trump.

1:10.8

And third, we'll talk about how Republicans are using their super majorities in state

1:15.6

legislatures in some ways to defy the will of the voters. And finally, we'll have cocktail

1:21.6

chatter. Oh man, the debt ceiling. All right, so here's where we are, I believe.

1:27.6

The Republicans in the House are insisting they won't lift the debt ceiling without big spending

1:32.5

cuts and they passed a bill that had a package of those. President Biden is saying that he is not

1:39.6

going to agree to those spending cuts because that would amount to holding the American economy hostage.

1:44.5

These are not budget negotiations. He's saying this is just about paying off the nation's debts.

1:50.0

For over 200 years, America's never ever ever failed to pay its debt.

1:56.0

To put in the capital and colloquial terms, America is not a deadbeat nation. We have never

2:02.8

ever failed to meet the debt. As a result, one of the most respected nations of the world,

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