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Death, Sex & Money

E. Jean Carroll: More Interesting, Not Damaged

Death, Sex & Money

Slate Podcasts

Business, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Careers, Relationships, Sexuality

4.67.6K Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2019

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

At 75, E. Jean Carroll is calling out the men who've sexually assaulted her—including, she says, the president. But talk to a therapist about it? No thanks. Sign up for our newsletter at deathsexmoney.org/newsletter, and every Wednesday we'll send you podcast listening recommendations, listener letters from our inbox and updates from the show. Follow our show on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram @deathsexmoney. Got a story to share? Email us any time at [email protected]. Support Death, Sex & Money today at deathsexmoney.org/donate.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I want to let you know that this episode contains conversations about sexual assault and childhood sexual abuse.

0:07.0

See here's the thing when you go back and really write what happened to you people are going to say don't you wish you

0:16.5

spoken out yes yes but I was trained from a baby to keep my mouth shut.

0:24.4

I was born during World War II.

0:27.2

We did not speak up.

0:29.2

This is death, sex, and money.

0:35.0

My advice to you is pay the money.

0:38.0

The show from WNYC about the things we think about a lot.

0:41.0

You're killing me tonight.

0:42.0

And need to talk about more.

0:44.0

Excuse me.

0:45.0

Now you are flirting with me, okay?

0:48.0

I'm Anna Sale.

0:50.0

When writer E. Jean Carroll was 39 years old, she'd been married for 14 years.

0:58.0

She was living in Montana and pitching story ideas to editors long distance.

1:02.0

Then she was assigned a story that brought her to New York.

1:05.6

I saw the bright lights big city and boy I did not want to go home to Montana. You know I had that life for 14 years and then I saw

1:15.1

New York and oh honey who did I love it I just loved it I'm walking down the street

1:22.4

and here comes a woman with hair four feet long blonde

1:26.7

gorgeous it was Erica Jong that was right after Fear of Flying came out.

1:31.1

Wow that's quite a welcome to New York City.

1:33.6

Yeah, I know.

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