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Navigating Narcissism with Dr. Ramani

Dylan Farrow on Surviving Sexual Abuse

Navigating Narcissism with Dr. Ramani

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True Crime, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Relationships

4.81.7K Ratings

🗓️ 4 May 2023

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Dylan Farrow, daughter of legendary actress Mia Farrow and filmmaker Woody Allen shares how she survived decades of suffering after being allegedly sexually assaulted by her famous father and offers a rare glimpse into her painful healing process.

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Guest Bio:

Dylan Farrow is a writer, activist, and filmmaker known for her powerful voice and unwavering commitment to social justice. Her mother is the renowned actress and activist Mia Farrow and her father is Woody Allen.

Dylan has faced numerous challenges throughout her life, including allegations of sexual abuse at the hands of her father, which she first spoke publicly about in 2014. Since then, she has become a leading advocate for survivors of sexual assault and has used her platform to raise awareness about the importance of believing victims and holding abusers accountable.

In addition to her activism, Dylan is also a talented writer and filmmaker. She has published numerous articles on topics ranging from mental health to politics to pop culture, and her short film "The Last Day of Summer" was an official selection at the 2019 New York Short Film Festival.

Guest Information:

This podcast should not be used as a substitute for medical or mental health advice. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical advice, counseling, and/or therapy from a healthcare professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issue, or health inquiry, including matters discussed on this podcast.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm going to read you something written by Dylan Farrow, daughter of legendary actress Mia Farrow and filmmaker Woody Allen.

0:10.0

What's your favorite Woody Allen movie? Before you answer, you should know. When I was seven years old, Woody Allen took me by the hand and led me into a dim, closet-like attic on the second floor of our house.

0:24.0

He told me to lay on my stomach and play with my brother's electric train set. Then he sexually assaulted me. He talked to me while he did it, whispering that I was a good girl, that this was our secret, promising that we'd go to Paris and I'd be a star in his movies.

0:43.0

I remember staring at that toy train, focusing on it as it traveled in its circle around the attic. To this day, I find it difficult to look at toy trains.

0:57.0

Dylan Farrow wrote that after her father received the Lifetime Achievement Award at the Golden Globes. Dylan's experience has been widely covered, often questioned, sometimes attacked by the media, Hollywood elite, and the public over the last three decades.

1:15.0

But what has been rarely talked about is what happened to Dylan after the age of seven. When did she last see her father? How did she navigate her teen years? How did she feel when her father married her sister, Suni?

1:34.0

On this episode of Navigating Narcissism, Dylan Farrow reveals her experiences with self-harm, eating disorders, depression, the devastating effects of suffering in silence, and how motherhood and marriage have helped her heal and thrive.

1:54.0

From Red Table Talk Podcasts and I Heart Media, I'm Dr. Romani, and this is Navigating Narcissism.

2:04.0

This podcast should not be used as a substitute for medical or mental health advice. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical advice, counseling, and or therapy from a healthcare professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issue, or health inquiry.

2:23.0

Including matters discussed on this podcast. This episode discusses abuse, which may be triggering to some people. The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the podcast author or individuals participating in the podcast and do not represent the opinions of Red Table Talk productions, I Heart Media, or their employees.

2:46.0

Dylan, it's such a pleasure and such an honor to meet you and just to have a conversation. Thank you so much for having me.

2:55.0

Dylan, when we hear an experience like yours, it's so easy to get focused on the notoriety and the fame of the perpetrator.

3:08.0

And in doing that, we actually lose the true story of the survivor, you. Today on Navigating Narcissism, the focus is on you, your experience of healing and surviving and even thriving after that.

3:26.0

And as a therapist, I can tell you, survivors are asked many times, unfortunately, to keep telling the story of what happened over and over again. I believe that survivors should be in full ownership of their stories.

3:40.0

So Dylan, I want you to begin telling us your story, whatever you feel comfortable.

3:45.0

Thank you. It's a little difficult to pinpoint a beginning because I would say it started when I was in infancy.

3:53.0

I almost feel like there wasn't really a chance for me to experience a normal quote unquote childhood from infancy. I was tremendously overprivileged.

4:07.0

And I had this fairy tale childhood that had a much darker side to it that started as soon as I can remember even having memories.

4:18.0

Backtracked the abuse about that long. It was a constant throughout my childhood of grooming and abuse, which culminated in the attic incident when I was seven or eight years old.

4:31.0

And I think people tend to look at that as sort of an isolated event when really it was a long process.

4:42.0

It is a long process. And I think that you're framing on that is so important. Dylan, because we do often get caught up in this culmination and an episode that feels like the defining event.

4:55.0

But it wasn't that it was a process and that process shaped your identity and it shaped your psychology.

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