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Star Trek The Next Conversation - a semi funny trashfire of a Star Trek podcast currently about TV's Deep Space Nine DS9 (or

DS9 s4e3 "The Visitor"

Star Trek The Next Conversation - a semi funny trashfire of a Star Trek podcast currently about TV's Deep Space Nine DS9 (or

Matt Mira and Andrew Secunda

Sci Fi Podcast, Star Trek The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Star Trek: Ds9, Star Trek Ds9 Podcast, Star Trek, Tv & Film, Tv Comedy Podcast, Laughing, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Comedy Podcast, Matt Mira, Star Trek Podcast, Ds9 Podcast, Star Trek Tng, Deep Space Nin, Star Trek: The Next Generation, Andrew Secunda, Star Trek Ds9, Comedy

4.82.1K Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2025

⏱️ 140 minutes

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Summary

Candyman Tony Todd appears as Jake Sisko through the ages - and in some insane age make-up! Todd and Avery Brooks also go head-to-head in a real theatrical-acting-off! Meanwhile Matt asks the question - couldn’t somebody at Starfleet have helped Jake with any of this? 

[Episode discussion begins 1:13ish. Voyager spoiler at 13:50ish for those who practice. OR IS IT NOT EVEN A SPOILER BECAUSE WE’VE WATCHED IT?] 



Transcript

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0:00.0

The

0:07.0

The Podcast, the final frontier.

0:29.1

These are the conversations of the friendship, Matt Myra and Andrew Secunda.

0:34.2

Their continuing mission.

0:36.3

To seek out old adventures with contrived civilizations.

0:42.6

To boldly watch episodes that one of them has watched before.

0:46.9

The Hello everybody, welcome to Star Trek the next conversation, the best Star Trek podcast

1:09.1

and the history of all them Star Trek

1:11.2

Podcasts. I'm Matt. I'm Andy.

1:15.2

I am a security officer, and I've had enough of this. If we were guilty, we wouldn't even

1:19.4

be here right now. Is he even in this episode? Oh, good question. I don't think he is. He must

1:26.0

have directed it. It's usually what happens, right?

1:28.3

Let me say.

1:28.9

Let me see. Let me see. Oh, no. It was David Livingston. That was the future when there are no changelings. No. Yeah, but they could have put Otto in there and he would have had to be in the stupid makeup. The old old. Oh, God. that was like the biggest detriment to this episode was the old people makeup.

1:27.0

Also like starting it with... The old. Oh, God. That was like the biggest detriment to this episode was the old people makeup.

1:46.0

I'm also like starting it on the old man makeup.

1:50.9

On Tony Todd's old man.

1:52.0

I'm like, why are we starting in tight here?

1:54.8

I mean, we're getting deep into the deep end immediately.

1:57.6

My question immediately is you have even young Tony Todd looks like an old man.

2:02.9

You don't need to layer on that many prosthetics. Just pepper the hair. You're good to go.

2:09.9

All right. Anyway, that's a little preview. Let's find out if you should actually watch the episode

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