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Drum Tower goes to Washington DC

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The Economist

News & Politics, News

4.44.9K Ratings

🗓️ 3 October 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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All is not well in the world’s most important relationship. China and America are at loggerheads over everything from trade to Taiwan. 

For a special live show, David Rennie and Alice Su travel to Washington DC to find out how relations between the two superpowers deteriorated and what can be done to improve them.

They speak to Evan Medeiros, a former top Asia advisor to President Barack Obama who is now a professor at Georgetown University. David and Alice also talk to a class of postgraduate students looking at the US-China relationship and find out what this younger generation thinks about the future.

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0:00.0

Imagine sweeping through green fields, floating five feet above ground, sun on your face as you slide by on track to your destination, not a car in the world, as you simply lean back.

0:17.0

And before you know it, you're there.

0:20.0

This is how travel should feel, and on our trains, it does.

0:25.0

Avanti West Coast, feel good travel.

0:36.0

David, hello.

0:37.0

Hello, and in person, offline.

0:40.0

Here we are.

0:41.0

Instead of being on an online call, we are in fact in the same place.

0:47.0

But we're not in Taiwan, where you live, we're not in Beijing, where I live.

0:51.0

We are actually here in Washington, DC.

0:54.0

You know, so often on drum tower, we talk about this triangular relationship between China, Taiwan and the US.

1:00.0

For the first time, we're recording an episode together in person, and we're doing it from that third part of the triangle.

1:06.0

And we could have gone to Congress, or we could have hung around a presidential debate spin room.

1:11.0

But we want to hear people who are still curious about the future of the relationship, who may even end up working professionally in some way

1:20.0

on the US-China relationship.

1:22.0

So we've come to a university.

1:24.0

Yeah, we are at Georgetown.

1:26.0

We are actually standing on a lawn just inside the main gate of the university.

1:30.0

There's a lot of big shady trees around us, and students sitting in rocking chairs.

1:35.0

There's one student with a hammock tied up.

1:37.0

It's very much an idyllic campus vibe.

1:40.0

And authentically, we are under the flight pass for Reagan Airport.

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