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It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

Drugs, Murder, And The World Cup Part 1: The Narco History Of Colombian Football

It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

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Sports, Football, Jonathan Wilson, Premier League, It What Was What It Was, Four Four Two, Rob Draper, The Overlap, History, Football History, When Saturday Comes, The Blizzard, Soccer, Stick To Football, English Football

4.9667 Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. In this first part of our three-part special on Colombian football and the tragedy of Andrés Escobar.


Co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper explore the extraordinary history of Colombian football leading up to the 1994 World Cup. This episode covers the intersection of football and narco-culture, Pablo Escobar's involvement in the sport, the tense rivalry with Argentina, and the dramatic road to qualification culminating in the legendary 5-0 victory at El Monumental. 


You can listen to this episode ad-free over on our Patreon - Follow the link here - or go to Patreon.com and search for It Was What It Was. You will also get access to our World Cup countdown, magazine retrospectives and bonus episodes as well as a monthly Q&A with Rob and Jonathan.


01:39 The El Dorado League & Early Colombian Football

10:11 Francisco Maturana: The Dentist Who Revolutionised Colombian Football

19:02 Maturana's Influences: Total Football Meets South American Flair

27:43 Navigating Narco-Culture: Pablo Escobar

36:11 René Higuita: The Sweeper-Keeper & The Kidnapping

41:25 Building Rivalry: Colombia vs Argentina at Copa América 1993

48:12 World Cup Qualifying Begins: Asprilla's Controversies

54:03 The Road to Buenos Aires: Setting Up the Five-Nil


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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to It Was What It Was. And before we begin this episode, we've got some exciting news.

0:05.7

We certainly do, Rob, on Friday the 6th of March, at midday, that's UK time. We're going to be doing a live Q&A on the Patreon for our subscribers. So please head over there. And if you've got any questions on our episodes or anything else to do with football history you can ask

0:21.1

there you can ask them on advance or you can ask them live at the time even if you can't

0:25.5

attend live we will try to answer your questions there's a forum there and the link is

0:30.5

in the description and don't forget to sign up to our patron because on there's all sorts

0:35.3

bonus episodes on there's going to be one on col. There's going to be one on Colombia coming soon.

0:38.9

There's one on Hooliganism.

0:40.5

There's another one on Pep Guardiola.

0:43.2

And also there are episodes looking back at shoot editions of the past and our World Cup

0:48.5

countdown, of course, going through Jonathan's book.

0:51.1

And don't forget that everything on the Patreon is ad-free. So sign up to the

0:55.9

Patreon and we hope you enjoy this current episode.

1:05.8

I would say that Colombia has always produced players, players who I believe were some of the

1:10.7

best in the world and would still be today. This talent has always produced players, players who I believe were some of the best in the

1:11.2

world and would still be today. This talent has always been around, but maybe they didn't

1:16.5

have the organisation or perhaps they were lacking an identity, a Colombian identity, succeed.

1:22.4

That's because we've always wanted to bring foreigners into our game. Argentinians, Yugoslavs, Brazilians, Europeans,

1:30.3

and in always looking at others, we ignored ourselves. Welcome to It Was What It Was, the Football

1:36.3

History podcast. And today we're embarking on a mini-series, which really is an epic and tragic tale,

1:43.1

one of the most significant incidents, I think,

1:46.1

in World Cup history ever. It's a terrible murder of Andrew Escobar, the Colombian defender

1:51.8

shot after scoring an own goal against the United States during the World Cup in the United

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