This podcast is hosted by Chris Finkston and Spencer Oliver. They are both experienced paramedics. They've done everything from 911 ground ambulance to volunteer fire department work

and are both currently flight paramedics.

This podcast reviews scenarios based on real calls run by real out-of-hospital clinicians.

Details are changed to protect the privacy of those involved

and to present educational opportunities to the listener.

This podcast is EMS 2020.

Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of EMS 2020, the show where we talk about

EMS calls and see if we can do them better or I don't know, maybe sometimes, maybe we'll

maybe we'll be worse. Sometimes worse. Someone's going to come to us for advice and be like,

no, you guys just, you made it worse.

There are some calls that we've reviewed where we've been like, you know, if we want to make

this worse, I guess you get outright strangle the patient.

Like that would be, that would be worse.

But anyway.

I actually, in intending to help a call recently, I did make things worse.

Oh, wow. We had a patient, went into a traumatic arrest, and, you know, everyone sort of realized it.

And then, like, there's that standard moment of like, oh, what do we do now?

And I'm like, well, okay, hey, guys, the patient is now in cardiac arrest.

So we're going to need to start CPR. And so I was like,

I turned to my partner and I was like, hey, why don't you be PIC? Um, and then I just continued to

be PIC and like assigned him all his people. And then at some point I was like, wow, I actually I've,

I've done, all I've done is make things confusing because I am acting like the person in charge of this

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