Drafters are not being aggressive enough in 2020.

That is what we're going to talk about today on stealing bananas.

I'm Ben Gretchen from my news that, Ben Gretchen.com with me.

As always, is Sean Siegel.

You can find one of his great work over at RotoViz.

You just wrote up our most recent show where we drafted over on Underdog. you mentioned to me that you just finished writing

that up excited to read through it you had told me that as you wrote it up got even more excited

about it you're always so optimistic but you even are excited about the pat fireman pick now that

i wasn't as thrilled about after the fact it was my idea but wasn't as thrilled about after the fact

in terms of you know the potential alternatives that we had there as we discussed later in

those episodes but that was a really fun draft i'm excited to read your breakdown on that

we got a really fun start in that one today Today, we're going to talk about aggressiveness.

You pitched this idea to me.

I'm not even 100% sure how you're defining the term,

and I'm super excited about sort of flying blind.

This is going to be one of our kind of conceptual shows.

I'm going to be digging in a little bit into what it is you are thinking here,

because it sounds incredibly intriguing. How are you thinking through Gris? Because when I said to you

just before the show, we talked very briefly, but we thought it would be better to just talk

through it on the show. But I was thinking immediately that maybe you were talking about drafters reaching ahead of

ADP, which in basketball has become sort of, I think the trend is sort of the opposite where people

are really trying to get values and build the super teams and get players to slip to them and

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