Hi, I'm Dr. Stephen Gundry and I'm one of The Passionate View.

Hey, I had a great time being with Omar and I hope people get some useful health tips that they can use on their daily life.

Hey guys, welcome to this very special episode of The Passionate View. Today we sit down with none other than Dr. Stephen Gundry. Known as a surgeon with over 10,000 surgeries under his belt. He's a bestselling author, including his newest book, The Energy Paradox, as well as the former president of the board of the directors of the American Heart Association. And today, we're going to talk all about health, nutrition, and how you can optimize your health, one new insight at a time. So thanks so much for being on the show today, Dr. Gundry. Thanks for having, Marlon. Absolutely. So a lot of people have heard about you online. A lot of people have, you know, read your books, the plant paradox, the energy paradox, and the longevity paradox. But talk to me, where did your obsession with this begin?

Obviously, you're a doctor, and you've had revelations in your thinking.

So where was the biggest breakthrough for you in terms of going one direction

and then, you know, later realizing, ah, maybe I got this all wrong?

Well, the biggest thing that happened was when I met Big Ed, who I talk about in all my books.

He was a 48-year-old, very obese gentleman from Miami, Florida, who had inoperable coronary artery disease.

That means all of his blood vessels were so clogged up that you couldn't put stents in them, you couldn't

do bypass surgery because there wasn't any place to jump to land.

And this guy had gone around the country looking for an idiot surgeon to operate on him.

And there are idiot surgeons like myself that do that. So this guy has spent six months trying to convince surgeons, actually around the country, to operate on him.

Everybody turned him down.

And he arrived at Loma Linda, where I was chairman, in the late 90s.

And I looked at his movie, the angiogram of his heart from Miami six months

previous. And I said, you know, I'd love to help you, but everybody's right. There's just

nothing I'm going to do for you. Go home. And he said, well, let me tell you, I've been on a

diet for the last six months and I've lost 45 pounds.

Now, this was still a huge guy.

He weighed 265 pounds when I met him, hence the word big ed.

And he says, I've been to a health food store, and I bought all these supplements.

And he actually brought in a huge shopping bag of supplements.

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