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The Rich Roll Podcast

Dr. Michael Gervais Is The Sensei of Human Performance

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.812.9K Ratings

🗓️ 5 October 2020

⏱️ 118 minutes

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Summary

How do world-class athletes, artists and top business leaders organize their inner lives to expand the edges of their potential? What are the frameworks and key mental skills needed to excel in those intense, all or nothing make-it-or break it moments? How do change-makers find peace, grounding, and even joy in the most intensely stressful, critical moments of their lives and careers? There is no human more well-suited to fielding these questions than world-renown high performance psychologist Dr. Michael Gervais -- returning for his 4th appearance on the podcast. A globally recognized authority on optimal human performance, Dr. Gervais has spent the last twenty years working in the trenches of consequential, high-stakes environments, where there is no luxury for mistakes, hesitation, or failure to respond. His clientele includes the NFL’s Seattle Seahawks, countless Olympic medalists, MVPs from every major sport, world record holders, internationally acclaimed music artists, and corporate leaders. In addition, Dr. Gervais is the host of the popular Finding Mastery podcast. Alongside NFL coach Pete Carroll he founded Compete To Create, an online and live master class for the mind, and together they authored the recently released Audible Original also entitled Compete To Create -- a must-listen for anyone interested in raising the bar on their own potential. There's a reason he's been featured by NBC, ABC, FOX, CNN, ESPN, NFL Network, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Outside Magazine, WIRED, ESPN Magazine, the Harvard Business Review and more: Dr. Gervais is the sensei of human performance optimization. Unlike our previous episodes, today’s exchange is not about elite athletic performance. Nor is it about the demands of jumping out of a plane without a parachute. In fact, it's not really about sport at all. Instead, this is a conversation about how best to navigate the cataclysmic shit show we call 2020 -- and the years of political, pandemic and planetary turmoil likely to follow. It's about understanding trauma. Accepting pain. Working through it. And how suffering is integral to the human experience. It’s about the difference between purpose and vision. The role of sport in a world that's closed for business. And the importance of optimism in dark times. If you're new to the show, you're in for a treat. I adore this man. So prepare to fall in love. The visually inclined can watch our exchange on YouTube. And as always, the podcast streams wild and free on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. If you enjoy today's conversation, you might also dig Michael interviewing me in the most recent Finding Mastery episode (FM #244). And you can mine his three previous appearances on the RRP (episodes 120, 252, and 366). It’s hard being a human in 2020. Don’t underestimate the circumstances -- but know there is a light out there. Let's find it together. Peace + Plants, Rich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcript

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0:00.0

The first order of business is always going to come down to awareness.

0:05.0

Like how are you imagining your future?

0:08.8

And if it's fundamentally pessimistic, like things don't work out, then let's recognize

0:14.2

that there's a moment to be able to get better at it, you know, to shift it.

0:17.9

And the data is really strong about why optimism is an important function for health, performance,

0:25.9

well-being.

0:27.3

And so the first order of business, like I said, is always going to be awareness.

0:30.8

It's where mindfulness and meditation, journaling and conversations with wise men and women

0:36.0

are really important.

0:38.0

Because if you're not aware of the way you're thinking about the future, you can't change

0:41.5

it.

0:42.8

You determine your experience in life.

0:45.5

You're an agent in this, as opposed to at the whips end of your external world.

0:52.9

And I haven't met a world-class thinker or doer that isn't fundamentally optimistic.

1:00.6

That's Dr. Michael Jervé, and this is episode 550 of the Retroll Podcast.

1:08.8

The Retroll Podcast.

1:19.8

Okay, so a couple of questions I want to ask today to posit for your consideration.

1:27.5

How do world-class athletes, artists and top business leaders organize their interlives

1:34.4

to expand the edges of their potential?

1:37.4

What are the frameworks and the key mental skills and models that are needed to excel in

1:44.3

those intents, those all or nothing, make it or break at moments?

1:49.1

How do change makers find peace, find grounding, or even joy in the most intensely stressful

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