It's the Brian Larry Show on WNYC.

Good morning and everyone.

And we just heard Michael Hill at the end of the newscasts there play an excerpt from our Martin Luther King weekend event at the Apollo Theater yesterday.

Now we're going to play another one because I did an interview that was originally for that event and we're going to air it here.

The guests, as you will hear, are Richard and Leah Rothstein experts and activists in the area of housing segregation.

And talking to the Rothstein's was very timely, given the barriers to affordable housing that we've been talking about a lot on this show recently with respect to our local area.

So here is my interview for the Martin Luther King

weekend event at the Apollo Theater with Richard and Leah Rothstein.

Hello, Apollo. I am here with Richard and Leah Rothstein, father and daughter.

Their passion and expertise is fighting housing segregation.

Richard is a distinguished fellow at the Economic Policy Institute think tank and a senior fellow emeritus at the Thurgood Marshall Institute of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund and well

known for his 2017 book

about the history of official housing segregation

and discrimination called the color of law.

Leah has led the Alameda County, California,

and San Francisco Probation Department's research project

on reforming community corrections policy to be focused on rehabilitation,

not punishment. She has also been a consultant to nonprofit housing developers, cities and counties,

and others on affordable housing policy and finance. And together now, Richard and Leah Rothstein

are co-authors of a book called Just Action,

How to Challenge Segregation and Acted Under the Color of Law.

So Richard and Leah, thanks for doing this and welcome virtually to the Apollo Theater.

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