On this episode of Skeptico, a show about the darkness and light of sexuality.

I just decided to focus on sexuality because there is so much darkness around it.

So I said, okay, why don't I address it? Why don't I bring it into light?

Like they wanted to demean, for example, Marie Magdalene on other goddesses. And then my

question is, why? There must be some liberating power in it, and we have to claim it, but in our

own way, not through darkness, but through light. And why we might want to always be suspicious

of spiritual intermediaries.

I as an ordained person with an indelible mark can make holy communion is what separates you from me.

So for instance, if you're gay and you're not absolutely chaste and celibate and you can't go to

communion, if you vote for somebody who approves of abortion, you can't go to communion. If you vote for somebody who approves

of abortion, you can't go to communion according to some. So it's become a kind of a politicized

reward for thinking the right way. Stick around for my interview with the very excellent

Dr. Joanna Kowave.

Welcome to Skeptico where we explore controversial science and spirituality with leading researchers,

thinkers and their critics. I'm your host Alex Sikaris. And today we welcome Dr. Joanna

Coave to Skeptico. She's here to talk about this book that I've pulled up on the screen,

Mary Magdalene and the Goddesses of Eros and Secret Knowledge.

Joanna, it's awesome to have you here.

Thanks so much for joining me on Skeptico.

Thank you, Alex. I'm delighted to be here with you.

Well, you know, we'll see what you say at the end.

I'm sure we'll have a discussion.

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