Dr. Jennifer Aaker and Naomi Bagdonas, co-authors of Humor, Seriously and faculty at Stanford: "Humor creates a window into authenticity and trust."

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Entrepreneurship, Careers, Business

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🗓️ 3 February 2021

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Do you ever feel like you don’t show your real personality at work? Our guests this week, Dr. Jennifer Aaker and Naomi Bagdonas, say unfortunately, that’s pretty common. They teach at Stanford’s business school. And through their research, they found it’s okay - and important - to show your coworkers that you’re human. Which includes having a sense of humor. This week, they sat down with us to share why laughter really can be the best medicine...especially in a Zoom meeting. In this episode, Dr. Aaker and Naomi share tips on how to read the room - or the Zoom (22:08), why managers can build stronger relationships with their team using humor (18:32), and how humor can help you land a job (29:20). If you want to learn more, you can buy their new book. It’s called “Humor, Seriously.” Seriously. Buy it here: https://www.humorseriously.com/buy. PS: We're calling all Skimm'd from the Couch listeners. Help us help you by filling out this five minute listener survey. Find it here: theskimm.com/podsurvey.

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0:00.0	When it comes to using humor at work, I think taking a step back, we are facing a massive
0:12.4	challenge in our world right now around trust.
0:16.3	A 2019 HBR survey found that 58% of employees trust a complete stranger more than their own
0:22.6	boss.
0:23.9	And so, you know, what we're finding at Stanford and beyond is that there's this global trend
0:30.9	where it used to be that leaders needed to be revered and now we're finding that leaders
0:35.7	need to be understood, that they need to be vulnerable, they need to be human and trust
0:41.7	is a huge component of that and humor creates a window into authenticity and trust.
0:47.1	I'm Carly Zaken, I'm Danielle Weisberg, welcome to Skim from the couch.
0:52.8	This podcast is where we go deep on career advice from women who have lived it, from the
0:56.6	good stuff like hiring and growing a team to the rough stuff like negotiating your salary
1:01.9	and giving or getting hard feedback.
1:04.6	We started the Skim from a couch, so what better place to talk it all out than where it
1:08.9	began on a couch.
1:17.1	Today we have two guests joining us, Dr. Jennifer Ocker and Naomi Bagdonas.
1:23.7	Dr. Ocker is the general Atlantic professor at Stanford's Graduate School of Business and
1:28.2	is a leading expert on how purpose and meaning shape individual choice.
1:34.3	We first met Jennifer at a conference where she was talking all about the importance of
1:39.5	happiness and now we're going to talk about humor.
1:42.2	So we love anytime we get to cross paths with her and Naomi is a lecturer at Stanford
1:47.9	and an executive coach and together they have spent years studying the effects of humor
1:53.7	in the workplace and they put those observations into their book, humor seriously.
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